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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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Cloxxki

Great progress indeed Howard!

I am still puzzled with the necessity of the pendulum oscillations to achieve inceased amplitude. Best I can come up with, is that the magnet array might work exceptionally well with the accellerating entry and decellerating exit.
I am still wondering if the array could offer advantage in a horizontal setup with continuous rotation. It would take away the little issue of revering the lever magnet.
Or, is a field created within the array, that can only be taken advantage of once each direction?

Thanks so much, and good luck with your further progress!

J

spoondini

Cloxxki - I ask myself the same question.  If a permanent magnetic array can accelerate in one direction (with free entry), you should be able to line several up to make a circle (continuous rotation).  Nobody has yet been able to make such because of the inherent conservative nature of magnetism.  In simple terms - the sticky points.

My suspension of disbelief that this can work is because the pendulum action provides the momentum necessary to overcome the sticky point in front of the magnet array.  A continously rotating wheel never get's the momentary gravitational acceleration associated with the YOG.

That being said, the most recent test performed still does not have me 100% convinced we're there.  Although I want to believe Howard has solved the riddle of perpetual motion with a touch of overunity, in reality I'm expecting the device to decelerate slightly with each oscillation.  Just like Jamie Ronor's stators or SMOT devices, it looks good until you try closing the loop.  I play with magnets quite a bit and can make lots of things 'look' like they're going to work until I try to get continous motion.  Howard's design is truly unique with the oscilating pendulum, he just might do it.

Kator01

Hi Howard,

really good progress, congrats.

When I made this comment on the cross-plate I remembered this website here

http://www.leevalley.com/shopping/Instructions.aspx?p=54198

But now it gets even more interesting if you combine an halbach array with the shielding-technique
of Mr. Roney I mentioned in the beginning.

best wishes

Kator01


WattBuilder

@ spoondini
Yes, I was able to get two cycles but I had to start over on the bearing design on the lever. The bearing mounted on the wooden lever started to bend and gave me a lot of problems. Since then I have switch to square aluminum tubing for a lever with patio door hinges instead of bearings. The hinges seem to work better and helped with the over turn.

As for the act of orientating the drive magnet. It does not take away any kinetic energy from the YOG. The YOG does not need to stop to turn. Turing a drive magnet on a 10 foot lever is no different then turning a drive magnet on a 60 foot lever. Whereas the 10 footer lifts 15lbs vs the 60 footer lifting 1500lbs. So with a long enough and strong enough lever you can actually lift a car. Therefore the YOG should be able to spare a couple of watts to turn the drive magnet.

@ Broli and Kator01
I will shoot for completely mechanically operated YOG but not for too long. I don’t think it’s wise to sit on this technology, as the world needs it. Thinking about it, every day that passes a life could have been saved.

As for the Halbach array it does make sense to use a stronger array method then buying stronger magnets. The shielding technique will sure need to be reviewed.

The YOG does open up a lot of methods ……….. 


@ Cloxxki and Spoondini,
The continuous rotation vs YOG oscillation debate is a discussion that can be too long for me right now. There are so many factors that come into play between the two.
·   For example when you close the loop with a magnetic array the flux pattern changes vs an arc array. It’s like having one big circle magnet with the spins traveling through the hole.
·   The YOG can also store kinetic energy like a flywheel and factor in potential energy.
·   Rotary devices works better with speed and the YOG works better with leverage.
·   I also believe magnets are like fingerprints and no two are the same.
·   Also the flux concentration with a closed loop seems to me a lot more sensitive vs an arc array. For example I tend to look at flux spins like a wheel. The drive magnet is like one big wheel and the closed loop magnets are like little wheels or bumps. If you drive a car over a bunch of bumps in a circle the car loses speed.

So that’s just to start. Maybe later when I clear my plate I'll can come back to this.


@ All
Well, at this point it’s just now a matter of time working out the orientation the harder way “no electricity”.

Thanks for the support!

Howard
My one cycle video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekDM8vg16k

spoondini

Cheers on 2 cycles!  Indeed the pendulum vs wheel could be a thread unto itself, but the bottom line is that you are the first I've seen take this approach and your reported results are promising.  Respect your enginuity and drive to get this tested and developed.  Best wishes.