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Overunity Machines Forum



Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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spoondini

I've got the concept.  It's just that in my warped mind m(magnets) and g(gravity) equal pe(potential energy) and can't really become additive.  Unless I drop a magnet into a bottomless coil.

Bulbz

It may be a good idea to replace that servo with something less current hungry. With my experience with RC model planes, I've learned that those little servos can demand a big lunch !

Still a good idea though  ;)
Best regards.
Steve Ancell.

WattBuilder

Spoondini,

Lets look at a playground see-saw. You have two kids equally balanced on a pivot. Kid “A” and kid “B” When kid “A” pushes its legs (lets give that value a number say 5) Kid “B” use up all the energy from “A” and the value is now down to 0.

Now, Kid “A” straps on a magnet next to an array and pushes a value of 5 again. The magnets will add push say 4. Now kid “A” has a total value of 9. Kid “B” will only use 5. So you have an OU remainder.

Let’s compare that to the YOG. The servo is kid “A” and the counter weight is kid “B”. The remainder is lifting the weight higher that allows longer rotation turning the turbine.

The magnets energy level is set at the manufacture. The magnets cannot increase it self or add it self. The offset magnet allows for the next tier to be reached

Did this help? If not can you explain at what point is not clear?

Howard
YOG Gain Video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5r08eqgsk

Cloxxki

Excellent work and video, Howard!

A relatively simple "proof" as far as video proof goes, would perhaps be to put the array on a vertical rail. Let's say you repeat the video as it was, with the addition of an assistent lifting the array out of range for the servo driven magnet. Can you use the servo to load the oscillator as concerns offered?

I will add how I admire Howard's attitude in this, how he's not after the money of the OU prize, and how he sends credits towards the late Howard Johnson. I have seen posters with just ideas who've showed much different attitudes.

Respectfully from Holland,
J

markdansie

After collaborating with several of my associates, I am afraid at this stage I am with MileHigh. To convince me otherwise you would need to have the magnet not offset when you turn it. I,E mount the servo motor dead centre and the magnet dead centre  on the servo. This should be pretty easy to do. If you can demonstrate that with that set up then you might have something.

As far as generating power I would use a linear generator at the bottom of the device which you could power up some caps and place variable load onto to work out at what point you reach equilibrium. You could then compare that to you power used by the servo. This test then would not matter if your magnet is not on centre provided the power generated exceeded power consumed.

I have to agree that the servo is a pretty hungry device to do the work. There are many otherways you may consider.

I do like the originality of the device.

Finally the energy gains are minimal if you take in account the amount of the pendulum swing is increased bu just a couple of inches each swing from its previous swing.

This is a fun project, I do wish you the best, but until you can demonstrate the magnet turning without being offset(on its own axis) then I would suggest no cigar.

Like always,I would like to be proved wrong.

Kind Regards
Mark