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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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poynt99

Howard,

Your work is commendable, however, it's an up-hill battle.

I have a lot of experience with a similar setup.

Take heed of MH's and MD's advice. In your defence however, yes the magnet array IS responsible for most if not all the added rotation of your pendulum, but as MH has said, this gain is offset by the energy required to rotate the magnet.

Check Rickoff's (among several others) setup as well. He hit a wall when it came down to making it self rotate. In fact all have hit this wall.

Your setup is not all that unique, but rather a variation of an old theme/concept. No one has yet overcome the entry problem....energy seems well conserved in all cases thus far.

.99
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Quote from: MileHigh on October 31, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
Synchro1:

I already explained that even if you could rotate the magnet by 180 degrees with a perfect stystem you would still have to expend energy to rotate the magnet against the magnetic field generated by the array.

If you think that you have a truly viable system for rotating the magnet then post mechanical and schematic diagrams and explain how it would work, talk is cheap.

You seem to be contradicting yourself.  A Joule Thief charger?  Like I said above, you are just throwing catch phrases around without any real meaning.   You can't just "throw a Joule Thief" at the problem.  You should avoid the temptation to speak in free energy pseudo techno babble.  You have to be specific and real.

The bottom line is that any unpowered mechanical system to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees would stop the pendulum cold in it's tracks in three or four cycles.  Any mechanical system powered by a battery to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees would require way more battery power than you could ever possibly extract from the pendulum.  Plus the only reason that you would have an apparent "gain" for each half-swing if you rotate the magnet by 180 degrees is because you are "forgetting" about the amount of energy you would have to expend to rotate the magnet by 180 degrees against the resistrance of the array's magnetic field.  It's a no-win situation.

MileHigh

We should be giving Howard words of encouragement, not discouragement.

If the goal is achieved then brilliant, and if it doesn't then at least he tried.
Best regards.
Steve Ancell.

WattBuilder

Quote from: poynt99 on October 31, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
I have a lot of experience with a similar setup.

Take heed of MH's and MD's advice. In your defence however, yes the magnet array IS responsible for most if not all the added rotation of your pendulum, but as MH has said, this gain is offset by the energy required to rotate the magnet.

@poynt99
Yes, I agree and to add on that. The energy gain can be increased simply by increasing the scale, magnet strength or array setup past any offset energy requirements. The drive magnet does not rotate in the array, there are no fields to over come during rotation. 

Quote from: poynt99 on October 31, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Check Rickoff's (among several others) setup as well. He hit a wall when it came down to making it self rotate. In fact all have hit this wall.

I have realized this, thank you. I believe my approach is different.

Quote from: poynt99 on October 31, 2009, 09:42:29 PM
Your setup is not all that unique, but rather a variation of an old theme/concept. No one has yet overcome the entry problem....energy seems well conserved in all cases thus far.

.99

I know of no other such device that can harness energy from different forms of either, Wind, Oceans, Rivers, Creeks, Underwater currents, and Magnetic Arrays. Do you?

As far as the entry problem. I have ……  that’s why were are all here on this thread right?  It’s shown on my one cycle video.

Regards,
Howard 

onthecuttingedge2005

Hi Wattbuilder.


I just wanted to mention that "all" carrier fields are infinite in propagation.

Gravity and or Magnetic fields are infinite in propagation, I just wanted to point that out because you were saying there weren't any fields to over come in one of your comments.

have fun.
Jerry 8)

poynt99

Quote from: WattBuilder on October 31, 2009, 10:42:29 PM
As far as the entry problem. I have ……  that’s why were are all here on this thread right?  It’s shown on my one cycle video.

Regards,
Howard

Is there not a slight force required on the magnet at the entry point of the array ?

.99
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Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209