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Overunity Machines Forum



Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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nightlife

Quote from: happyfunball on January 29, 2010, 09:38:49 PM
@nightlife

Do you think Howard thinks his arm will enter and exit the array without any additional force? He doesn't. This is magnetism combined with gravity/ momentum. There isn't any doubt that the YOG shows a gain in arm travel, the question is whether it's more than the force required to turn the arm magnet. It seems to me that we see increasing potential energy with which to turn the magnet. Imo it's not overunity for the first few passes but might be afterwards.

LOL, as I said before, I already tested this. Gravity has an equal north and south just as does a magnet. Don't forget that.  ;)

happyfunball

Quote from: nightlife on January 29, 2010, 09:52:43 PM
LOL, as I said before, I already tested this. Gravity has an equal north and south just as does a magnet. Don't forget that.  ;)

Tested it how? The YOG shows increasing arm movement. Discounting the first half dozen passes, did you then try to harness the momentum to create a current/ power the arm magnet?

nightlife

Quote from: happyfunball on January 29, 2010, 10:34:53 PM
Tested it how? The YOG shows increasing arm movement. Discounting the first half dozen passes, did you then try to harness the momentum to create a current/ power the arm magnet?

It does not show increasing arm movement aftr the gate that would be any different then the movement if the magnets were not used. As matter of fact, it slower after the gate then with it is without the use of magnets. He just has not properly calculated the factors. The only increasiing movement is from  th start  of the array to the end of the array. The moment it passes the gate, all the gain is lost. It is not really any different then having straight array that is lifted up like in this next video.

All I was doing is trying to save you all some tme but it is obvious that you don't believe me so I will stop trying to help. Good luck guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvhX7BF9pL0

happyfunball

Quote from: nightlife on January 29, 2010, 10:59:53 PM
It does not show increasing arm movement aftr the gate that would be any different then the movement if the magnets were not used. As matter of fact, it slower after the gate then with it is without the use of magnets. He just has not properly calculated the factors. The only increasiing movement is from  th start  of the array to the end of the array. The moment it passes the gate, all the gain is lost. It is not really any different then having straight array that is lifted up like in this next video.

All I was doing is trying to save you all some tme but it is obvious that you don't believe me so I will stop trying to help. Good luck guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvhX7BF9pL0

It wouldn't be different without magnets? This goes back to the question of whether the momentum is gained by the shifting weight of the arm magnet. I think it has been shown that it is not, due to the point on the curve at which the magnet is rotated. As for a SMOT, they are essentially sloping magnetic ramps, the YOG's is different. But if the array can be classified as a SMOT (certainly not a typical SMOT), the point of the YOG is gravitational assistance as far as I can tell.

nightlife

QuoteBut if the array can be classified as a classic SMOT, the point of the YOG is gravitational assistance.

  The gravitational assistance is canceled out by the return back towards  start with work left to return back to start. I had considered using a electromagnetic coil to help the assist back to start but then energy required is greater then the energy created. A jule theif may help in this but at best all we would get is a perprtual motion that would stop with the slightest amount of resistance added. I have not went that far with testing because I felt it was a waste of time. Another option was to cancel the magnetic field using a electromagnetiic coil after the arm was in the field  to allow a smother exit canceling out the resistance of the gate. But again, the energy required trumps the enrgy created.

The arm's weight is a factor as is the distances traveled. Remember that when calculating. There is no sense in me explaining any more then I have already. Either you get it or you don't. If you don't, you will eventually.