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Yu oscillating Generator ---- Overunity YOG Model

Started by WattBuilder, September 14, 2009, 03:19:15 AM

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Charlie_V

Sorry,

I'm having a hard time visualizing how the magnet arrangement in the array works.  Could you or someone draw it in detail?  All the magnet stuff I've ever worked with had two spots, a place where it accelerated toward (or away) and a place where it would stop.  If the magnets were arranged so they repelled, you would have to push it through a sticky point, then beyond that sticky point it would repel away. If it was in attraction then it would attract up to the "sticky point" and then it would try to hold it still.

I'm curious how you make the magnet arrangement so that the moving magnet can clear the other magnets without having to change the polarity while in the field.  You are changing the polarity once out of the field which is really interesting.  I've tried to read about Howard Johnsons stuff but it never made sense.  Surely one of you guys could help me out.

Thanks,
Charlie

WattBuilder



Quote from: Charlie_V on March 02, 2010, 10:41:42 PM
I was wondering how the magnet arrangement works.  Is there a sticky point before the pendulum magnet enters the influence of the array? 

The sticky point (known as resistance point) happens on the test array that I have set up is during the entrance influence of the array not before.

Once the drive magnet has passed the sticky point. The remaining length of the array is where the OU energy comes from, as it picks up momentum from the field. 


Quote from: Charlie_V on March 02, 2010, 10:41:42 PM
Also, if the pendulum magnet is balanced (in the video and elsewhere i read that it was unbalanced) so that you don't have to fight gravity to turn it around, it still accelerates from the array correct?

Theoretically, if the set up of the array and the magnetic strength is strong enough, you don’t have to have the unbalance of the drive magnet. The unbalance helps with a minimal cost of the input energy while orientating the drive magnet. You might as well.

In past post I have been calling this the “step function” trying to explain what I feel is taking place. The energy gained from the off balance is allowing for advancement in travel. I have used examples of climbing up a stairway and also used an example of a bumper jack. In the case of the stairway, it’s not the energy moving your foot up but the energy moving your foot forward.


Quote from: Charlie_V on March 03, 2010, 08:45:04 PM
I'm curious how you make the magnet arrangement so that the moving magnet can clear the other magnets without having to change the polarity while in the field.  You are changing the polarity once out of the field which is really interesting.  I've tried to read about Howard Johnsons stuff but it never made sense.  Surely one of you guys could help me out.

As far as changing the polarity while in the field, that might be a better discussion for a new thread as I’m trying to keep this thread within scope. 

One of the great things that I feel about Howard Johnson work was he was able to point out that the spins of the magnetic flux can be utilized to do work. He then was able to clarify it with his work with magnetic vortexes. His work also complements magnets that they have an unequal force with other magnets.

My advice is to read it again and again. Focus on how the spins interact with each other. But here’s a tip for your new thread. Counter clockwise against counter clockwise equal traction. Counter clockwise against clockwise equal slippage.

Regards,
Howard Yu   


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happyfunball

Howard,

I havent seen a detailed diagram of your array, but since you say it's an HJ array, I'll assume from appearances that it's similar to the first one in his book, the flat track w/ the corners of the magnets facing up.

I'm wondering what would happen with the setup he uses on the train car/ track. Basically a box formation w/ bar magnets and a circular mag ring mounted on back to cancel spin.

It might require two separate arrays, each in one direction, but it seemed from the footage that it achieved the most thrust. Not sure if entering the array would be possible though.

WattBuilder


Quote from: happyfunball on March 04, 2010, 12:16:28 AM
I havent seen a detailed diagram of your array, but since you say it's an HJ array, I'll assume from appearances that it's similar to the first one in his book, the flat track w/ the corners of the magnets facing up.

To be fair, it’s not so much the set up of the array that I give HJ credit for on the YOG array. It’s more relates to the work he has done with the spins that magnets have.


Quote from: happyfunball on March 04, 2010, 12:16:28 AM
I'm wondering what would happen with the setup he uses on the train car/ track. Basically a box formation w/ bar magnets and a circular mag ring mounted on back to cancel spin.

It might require two separate arrays, each in one direction, but it seemed from the footage that it achieved the most thrust. Not sure if entering the array would be possible though.

In the past when I was studying HJ’s work, I set up a box configuration like an up side down “U” shape array. That kind of mimics the circle portion of the HJ square & round gate. I then placed many magnets side by side with the north’s facing out towards the train like the HJ gate. What I found was when the trains north faces the north’s opening of the array, It does attract. The array sucks the train right in and stops at the transition point from square to round.

The result from that test is what I have on the YOG now and still can be improved.

Howard