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4th Dimensional energy?

Started by Clarky, March 07, 2006, 08:54:32 PM

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Clarky

First of all, hey!  :) im new here.

A bit about me Im 21 year's old and an ex design student from Wolverhampton University in England.

I work with animation and conceptual design.

I am totally intrigued by overunity subject matter, overunity obviously meaning your getting more useable work out than your putting into a system, at first I was obviously skeptical  :P.

Ive read alot books, articles, websites, and what makes the most sense to me are Thomas Bearden's talks about 4th dimensional energy and how the atom is already in perpetual motion making our visible universe one giant negative entropy operation in its very essence. Also how present science is trying to explain phenomena such as the Casimir effect, and Aharanov Bohm effect in terms of 3 dimension's clearly failing so they are forced to use a 4th dimension to explain the energy change using it as postulative rather than a reality.

For instance, in quantum physic's they require that there exist virtual particles, which are needed to explain the existance of the observed process. Yet these are considered postulative and not real.. yet without these imaginary pieces it would not function.

So it makes more sense to me anyway, that these perpetual virtual elements are real and are just directly undetectable at present. I find these theories make alot of sense in terms of explaining the link between gravity and electromagnetisim, dark energy, the cosmological constant, and the source charge problem.

I dont mean to patronise  :) Im sure people already know alot of this stuff.

So I honestly think under the context of future theories what some people call perpetual motion will oneday be recognised as a new power source, and that overunity is perfectly acceptable, the only difficulty is right now we dont consider the 4th dimension to be energetic, and that is all that hinder's that understanding.

I believe that alot of our present preconception's of energy under present theory are misguided and a majority of modern science is still thinking too 3 dimensional about the universe, but if you read about higgs boson's and the higg's field I believe all of that is about to change.




Elvis Oswald

The problem is that the first three dimensions are spatial dimensions that describe three directions only. 

If a box is 1m squared... you say that it's length, width and height are 1m - and those are the three dimensions.
What about it's position in space?

If the three dimensions are x, y and z... then what about every degree between x and y? Between y and z? Between x and z?

And why call the opposite of x, y, or z negative?  That's the constraint of language on thought.  It's actually a completely different direction.

But all of that was a tangent.  :D  Because those are spacial dimensions.

The true dimensions are those of sight and sound and etc.  To the blind man - light lives outside his dimension.

What science needs to realize in this instance, is that there things we cannot perceive. 

Freedomfuel

In my opinion Thomas Bearden is a charletan whose influence has probably delayed a wider understanding of free energy as well as it's application.  The people in the Above Top Secret forum take a harsher view of him and describe him as a 'close to the surface misinformationist' for instance.  The problem is that he sounds plausible and authoritive to those who are not scientifically educated but fellow scientists say that his ideas are totally illucid.  Also it does seem odd to me that someone who claims to be so well connected, a colonal in the US army, worked in defense planning, knows people in the itelligence services should be so far off the mark.  There is no fourth dimension or energy in the vacuum.  Free energy comes from the atmosphere. 


Clarky

I understand where your coming from.. but Bearden clearly isn't talking about understood atmospherics but rather the energy that comes from quantum potentials that stem from virtual particle flux. The effects of this energy can clearly be seen in certain real world examples such as the casimir effect and the Ahranov Bohm experiment.

If you believe that the energy the atom requires to sustain itself comes from the physical atmosphere then you are sorely mistaken as it's well known that virtual particle flux is required to sustain the physical behaviour of the quantum world, pick up a new scientist and even mainstream science has predicted an all pervasive energy field in particle physics with the search for higgs bosons. Also remember the definition of Dimension is basically a set of values which we cannot detect yet as theorised within string geometry, which applies to this energy field.

So it is only logical to assume there is something else there beyond the physical nature of the universe when we see effects that can't be directly attributed to normal atmospheric effects. Bearden simply is trying to elaborate further on the understanding of these virtual fluctuations and how they interact to create our perception of matter, gravity, EM and time.