Understanding electricity in the TPU.

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it is all spins ...   there only 2 ....

ccw cw ...   tesla was facinated with counter rotating feilds.....   

this is spin ... 

this is cause ..  effect 3 feilds ...  gyro 

merkaba

ballanced subatomic gyroscopic particle ...   all is made of thease ...  and you can divide them with spins like magnets ...  and when you un spinn them duality.. pos and  neg ..  you can reconnect them where ever you want  via 369 9 destonation   singularity 

simple right  tesla teleportation   can be made many ways ..

the feilds i think im unsure on this ...   electric gravitic magnetic  effect of spinns  i think then maybe there harmonics of those ... im only speculating ...

ist

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@EM - @Mannix - @All (sorry for long post)

At the voltages and frequencies @EM is talking about, of course, you will find frequencies that will give some buzzing but this is not really inline with the FTPU build structure. I can now pulse up to 22mhz and p-p of only 16 volts and can get buzzing at certain levels but as soon as you put a magnet near the toroid, that's where you will get the real vibrations of the device especially if you pulse the toroid at 7.8 hertz range as described by SM saying a slight vibration in that range. Nice steady vibration.

But I get the point from these last posts trying to kindly say to me that the vibration in the TPUs is coming from somewhere else, but I would have to respectfully reiterate that it is not. Usually, when something is so obvious, the obvious is the reality. Our choice to look at so many other reasons is only a natural extension of our own inquisitive side, trying to find so many other effects. But all these other effects do have their own merit and basis and limits, but none will be able to nullify the effects of the obvious magnet to toroid vibration. I really suggest this be taken as a given and not mulled over endlessly. This will leave you to then work on the most important part of any TPU, and that is WORKING WITH GAIN.

So what does working with gain really mean. Well it can mean several things depending on how you intend to create your system and have some energy looped back to which point in a circuit.

I am convinced that in the TPUs, if they were real working devices in the true sense of overunity, then the only real novelty is how SM managed to have his devices work with gain. He says very little about this and that pushes me to conclude that this is one subject he wished to hide from us.

In an FTPU, if we consider that the two toroid coils are not those of high inductance because of their limited turns, then we must consider that there is such a coil in the system that we cannot clearly see and I think it is the one that is between the two layers.

In the OTPU, there are two coils of high inductance that are right below where he puts the two magnets. There is also a toroid coil like in the FTPU. In the STPU, 6TPU and others, it is easy to hide such a small coil inside the build.

There must be a relationship between a coil of high inductance, a diode, a capacitor tank and a toroid coil where when these components are wired together, I don't know how yet but am working on it, so that when a pulse of let's say 4 vdc is created, it enters the capacitor in an additive manner. Voltage rise would be 4, 8, 16, 20, 24, 28 volts and so on. We touched on this in The Tesla Project thread were @allcanadian gave a good explanation on why the capacitor was being charged relative to the coil of high inductance, but I can't find the actual post. Have you ever tried pulsing a cap and coil to resonance LC but with a diode in there to push it only one way. Even in the Jule Thief trials, this gain solution would be a definite advantage.

The main problem with capacitors is simple. If I give one pulse into a capacitor that holds it at 100 volts, then follow this with 100 pulses of 25 volts, nothing much will change or grow in voltage inside the capacitor. The capacitor is like a maximum voltage indicator. If I had 50 different voltages pulsed into the capacitor, the highest voltage will show at the end but the lower voltages will just bounce off of it and become wasted energy. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Not another angle??

So the question is, how can you pulse 4 volts into a coil and have each pulse added to the capacitor to eventually get 100 volts. This for me is the definition of working with gain and this is what I am working on now as one of the final pieces to this puzzle. This is where the real novelty is and the real secret to SM TPUs. Without this, there is no TPU possible because you will not be able to make use of the energies produced. Once this method is known, then it is only a matter of technicality to use it to our advantage. Example: Pulse at 6000 hertz into a cap that grows with gain. At every 100 pulses, discharge into a transformer primary coil and you will have a 60hz with a good output.

But I am sure the use of a high inductance coil is required and that putting the coil and capacitor in series with a diode placed somewhere around them is required. You see, you can add energy to a capacitor or you can add energy to an inductor that has a capacitor in series, and the capacitor will charge to the inductors level. Now if the inductor can accumulate in an additive manner the 4 volts being pulsed into it and grow with this voltage holding more and more inside the coil core, then the capacitor should follow this gradual rise at each pulse. Anyways something like that or close. There has to be a way and SM found that way, and in my view, most our research should be pushed in that direction to find a solution to this gain question. Once you have answered the gain question and/or technique, then I think @JackDurban was very right to state that the SM TPUs did not have to be round, toroid type. Any form of coupling would do as long as you know how to make it grow with gain. Such a technique would help so many other guys working with their own designs.

Maybe one last thing here. Yes I am talking in simple terms, I am aware that a capacitor has the uF value and this will determine how fast it can get charged with a given voltage. But this does not change from the fact that what is required is a method of rapid incremental voltage increase and then rapid discharge. Everything else is secondary (no pun intended). lol

[EMdevices]

@mannix,  I use a simple push-pull configuration, self oscillating and transformer coupled.  I have embarked on a test to see how far I can couple magnetically using just loped wires (not house wiring) and I converted my frame coil receiver into a transmitter (other thread shows it)   We'll it's kind of disappointing, the most I can get is two feet or so away from the frame coil, so my house wiring (driven by my magnifier/resonator) works so much better, but it's highly dangerous too and could damage other components/appliances.  I think I need long wires warped around my house, but I'm not about to spend the money on such a crazy feat.   This would explain why the power lines work so well for SM, they are very very long (relative to his house) and SM gets a nice even field from them. (separation between the wires is also critical, and he has that separation)

anyway, nice singing results, magnet sensitive from a few feet away, that's great !!.  What do we do with this phenomena now?  (it's a rhetorical question   lol)  It's all about the Q of the resonance and the mixing of frequencies.  I'll be gone for a while (holidays, etc..)
EM

[Mannix]

@watts up

I agree with your perspective , but both otto and em have something that is out of the ordinary. what I have so far is probably quite ordinary as the levels do not seem that great but the magnet does start something that then continues. It is like the magnet triggers another mode of tuning that then continues. otto has this with no core at all.

Some more info from EM would help make this easier to define.

Tuning to magnetisim still seems a worthwhile persuit

This is one half of my efforts

the other is combining 3 frequencies . I hope they meet each other at some point.

I would like from you your latest ftpu diagram as there are so many in your archive

keep up the good work!

[otto]

Hello all,

@Mannix

that are great news!!!

I hope you use a core but I dont think so, ot you have the wrong core material. Take care because the particles are hitting your body!!!

As I have changed the core in my TPU I have now to use a core im my little HV transformer.

As already mentioned, the frequencies have to meet at 5 or 6kHz.

Until last weekend I thought its impossible to get a vibration with sine waves but I managed somehow to connect my little transformer in a way to get sine waves and when I tuned the frequency I saw the sines vibrated but......I prefer vibrations from square waves because the vibration signals are sooooooo big.....and its a good control for me:

when the high voltage is not so big I see normal signals to say so but when I have a really big high voltage I see how the squares and kicks are changing into sines. This means for me that my coils have a real big high voltage.

I forgot to mention that I dont use caps. I have a little transformer with a primary and 2 secondaries ( bifilar).

A lot of times I have readed posts about the flame when SM shorted the wires in a video.

I have this flame when I short the wires. Its like a fire and yes, I had not once my lamp cable in flames. The isolation was burning. So, dont worry about this.

Today I have a "special job", ha,ha.

For a friend I have to construct a charging - discharging device for caps.
But its a very short job because I have to finnish it today. Please dont say me how to do it because ....  Im clever....(Im joking of course, ha,ha)

Otto