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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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Quote from: Gobaga on November 27, 2009, 02:37:35 PM
This thread has gotten sidetracked.


What does this say about "electricity in the TPU"?

i love that statement ... 

he sure was a briliant man!

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

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Gobaga

Quote from: giantkiller on November 27, 2009, 03:43:47 PM
Posted again for the umpteenth time. If ya seen it ya know.

--gk.

Really?  So, what is he talking about the initial current interacting with the earth's magnetic field?  Interacts how?  If things are this straight forward, why can't you just pulse a coil and get more out than in? 

Must be a little more to it than that.

wattsup

@Qwert

Thanks for your post. It did not go unnoticed. There are many aspects of those links that have some pertinence in one way or the other but the problem always remains to place them in the practical components and means that are observable in the TPUs.

This is the main problem with many theories of the TPU. Guys will give great reasoning between one or more effects. But when it comes time to please please point to the actual observed TPUs and indicate where in the TPUs they are referring too, then we sort of go on the way side.

The theory has to fit the objects in question.

I think @tsl gave a good run down on another thread but again, no nuts and bolts substance.

@sparks

In terms of what you said about the resonance, maybe yes, maybe no. In my experience, at resonance, things seem to go very quickly back and forth, but as soon as you try and tap either into the circuit or in a side stream coupling, there is no torque potential and the resonance dies off quickly. You would need a device of let's say 500 volts in resonance while you are only pulling off 20-30 volts so as not to disturb the bulk of the resonance mass or circuit. Sort like making a loaf of bread and just living off the crumbs.

By the way, when the hell is @Grumpy going to come back. I think this banning thing has gone long enough. @stefan, if you read this, please do your magic.

sparks

   Resonance is just a storage deal.  What it does is allow the accumulation of a small potential energy scource into a large one.  Kid on a swing.  The little taps add up.  This is just an oscillating inertial field converting from at rest energy in the capacitor and inertial momementum in the inductance of the system.   The resonance can allow for current and voltage potentials far in excess of the supply circuit but is not overunity by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes time for this condition to be reached.  What is the benefit>  Your power scource can be of very low intensity but manifesting at a high frequency.  A microamp on the input at a high frequency of input can become an amp at 60cycles.  Sometimes the taps add up and the sytem can now be done with oscillation and go into rotational resonance.
Slowing down in one 1/2 of the rotation and acclerating in the other 1/2.  Of course the taps would need to be applied at the epogee of the rotation.
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@Gobaga,
A different way to say what Wattsup & Sparks stated:
Same thing if you beat a bell with a rubber hose you get nothing no matter how many times you do it. But if you use a harder object (shorter pulse) and time it just right (frequency/resonance) you could topple a bridge with a ball peen hammer, a pinball flipper coil or a pinball free game knocker.
Now I have to find the wire length for next coil that matches 38.5khz at 1/4 wave length. Resonance keeps the field extended while we push on it in another way. You cut the flux connection completely off, modulate the field perimeter, or modulate the field interior like Tesla modulating the ionosphere dielectric with the Wardenclyffe tower. But you have to communicate with the medium in a way that excites it and matches what your process needs to match the output desired. Then we can 'Pump It Up'. The bigger the field the more we have to play with. Resonance helps us get there with lower power consumption. Look at the TPU this way and you see the hidden secret. 8)
Grumpy stated that if you force resonance with an LC tank with torque the E & B field out are of phase with each other. This adds extra return. Natural resonance returns them in phase so you get less. This was the answer I got when I asked about how the Poytning vectors looked.
The initial shockwave extends far greater then the conduction field from the initial current. The Earth's magnetic field responds to this. Otherwise you are trying to hold water with a screen.

Quote from: Gobaga on November 27, 2009, 05:57:25 PM
Really?  So, what is he talking about the initial current interacting with the earth's magnetic field?  Interacts how?  If things are this straight forward, why can't you just pulse a coil and get more out than in? 

Must be a little more to it than that.