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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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forest

Ahh I thought that Bruce_TPU revealed all TPU details ? What about his thread ? Do we still don't know how TPU is constructed ?

stprue

Quote from: forest on December 06, 2009, 04:09:10 PM
Ahh I thought that Bruce_TPU revealed all TPU details ? What about his thread ? Do we still don't know how TPU is constructed ?

Bruce is still working at his own pace so don't wait on him for any secrets. 

wattsup

@forest

I don't know either about @Bruce_TPUs build information since he did not come back yet with an update. The main thing I feel about the three level build is there will be major cancellation problems since all those coils are inter-wound.

As for the SM TPUs, we know many many things about many many parts of the TPUs, and it is simply a question of putting all the pieces together in a workable theory, testing it out, learning from those and then going to the next one. I don't know if there is any other or better way then what we have been doing since how long, i am losing count. But I think I am getting at least close enough to start concentrating on one or two main methods. But I think if my next build gives the results I am expecting, it is really a question of conversion device.

I do know that the coupling effect between the outer control coil and the outer ring is very good for a simply two turn ring with loose control coils.

So basically like this.

The center toroid has one or two hidden secondaries vertical wound and connected in parallel for the two black small wires coming out. The two visible coils is one or two primaries also connected either in bucking mode or parallel with the two white wires coming out. This will be easy to test soon enough.

Using the Tesla Ozone Patent shorting method via a coil of high inductance hidden between both layers, he is hitting the toroid primary and producing a high voltage coming from the toroid secondaries, with one wire going to the top outer control coil and the other wire going to the bottom outer control coil but in reverse pulsing these with around 300 volts. The coupling between the outer control coil and the outer ring is enough to lower the voltage but increase the amperage.

This simple set-up could easily be built into the other TPUs.

Yep, I think I am getting very close and will know soon enough. lol

More soon...........

giantkiller

Stun gun circuit.

The Sauron coil has been modified. It is a Tesla coil. See the mismatched winding on the bottom level?

--Giantkiller.

wattsup

@All

Let's talk about the vacuum tube analogy because I think I figured it out based on my last tests on the outer ring.

A vacuum tube does what and why? You feed 5 volts and get 300 volts output. Imagine the step up transformer you would require to do this. Feed 5, get 300. Feed 5 and the negative cathode gets red hot sending its thermionic electrons off the cathode. The positive potential of the anode plate then attracts these electrons without any resistance, counter field or counter induction and permits 300 volts to exit the tube. WOW. That is great to know.

So what is the parallel to the FTPU. I am talking only about the FTPU but guys that know the other units will make the link. Where can you replicate the tube action without making a vacuum tube device.

Well, according to my testing of several outer ring (OR) and outer control coil (OCC) combinations, I have found something curious.

My testing is generally always the same pattern. I use a pulse generator to pulse the frequency, voltage and duty into the pulsed object, transfer the energy to another object then connect it to my 88mF 1200vdc capacitor (big bugger) via a germanium diode (I formerly used a regular diode but no longer - germanium has a much lower forward bias voltage of only 0.2 volts.) So this set-up is used in all tests for reproducible results, and, I have reproduced them from my notes several times to make sure.

When I use a copper OR or an iron OR with an insulated copper OCC wrapped over it I am always getting not more then 2:1 transfer - at best. Meaning if I am pulsing into the OCC  at 3vdc 10% duty at 2.34mHz (best frequency for this test), I will load my cap tank up to 1.5 vdc. Now when I then pulse the OR and take output from the OCC, hence doing it in reverse, I am getting the same results. Even if I increase the pulse voltage or duty, I am not getting more output. WHY?????????????

I think what is happening is when I am pulsing the OCC, the OR being either copper or iron will build up its own magnetic field and eventually repel any further influence coming from the OCC. There is just so much energy the OR will take before it repels any more energy transfer. That would not be like the vacuum tube anode that does not repel the cathodic energy.

So, I am thinking what can catch and conduct electricity and not produce a magnetic field or at least a minimal magnetic field and it hit me. Aluminum. So I took an aluminum OR of 2 1/4 turns and wrapped a 24awg magwire OCC over it without really caring about the number of turns because for me this is not important at this stage.  The ring turns were kept loose so they do not touch anywhere to another ring turn.

Anyways, I started pulsing in the same way as above and to my surprise, voltage rise with input at 2.34mHz-3vdc-10%duty went to 4.34vdc. I never saw this before. When I temporarily short my cap tank, the voltage rises back up right away so there is no putzing around with 0.01 vdc increases as i have mostly seen with this. And the other way around is the same. This confirms to me that either the TPU OR or OCC cannot be copper or iron. I have not tested with both OR and OCC s non-copper but will try it also. It has to be a metal that conducts electricity but does not build up a magnetic field. This makes perfect sense so the receiver does not hinder the transmitter, so the ring become an energy absorbing device that does not build up a source repelling field and this falls in pretty close to what the vacuum tube is doing.

Now just forget about the voltages. This is only to show how well transfer can occur and making it as transparent as possible. For me this is now clear. The ring can be aluminum, stainless steel may be good also either as the pulsing agent or the receiving agent, does not matter at this point. But copper to copper will not work in the TPU because both have the inherent side issue of their magnetic fields that will repel any maximum transfer potential.

Next is the toroid or cannon to cannon analogy. I need a few more days for this one. lol

So guys, just take any amount of Aluminum wire and wrap 2 1/4 (or more it's up to you) turns, then wrap an outer control coil of any mag wire. Make sure the AL turns do not touch each other and then have some fun. I am adding a picture of my setup showing the way I used the ring also as a stand, a solenoid coil and a capacitor in the middle. Can't wait to hit this with my next center toroid.

Last thing about this is when I tested this, at one point I had my TV on that is about 6 feet away and as the images changed on the tv screen, the oscilloscope waveform changes also. never saw that before. My tests were not influenced by this because my TV was off, but this same coil ring setup is very sensitive to emanations coming from the TV screen and is giving up to 1 volt on the cap tank. Actually that is pretty scary. Slow cooking TV style.

I am also posting a diagram showing the TPU similarities. It does not include the OTPU because I still have misgivings about that demo and still think it was not entirely faked but half faked. I am still concerned that SM showed the voltage but faked the amperage. I think at the time he made that unit he was desperate to show something to his investors and had to make it look real good and convincing. But I do not believe that device worked as he says it does.