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Understanding electricity in the TPU.

Started by wattsup, October 18, 2009, 12:28:42 PM

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Hi Sparks,

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wattsup

@All

OK. One of the main criteria of the TPU is to run with gain. Now to run with gain, or gain with run, there must be a place in the TPU to run an event that can accumulate gain.

The electron potential to do this is already present in the copper conductors, capacitor plates, battery materials, inductor cores, spark ignitions, switches and more.

But in order to run with gain, any system has to know when it is overstepping its bounds in a way that could be adverse to the intention of the systems' gain requirement.

I have thought of an analogy to explain an angle of this gain question based on my experience in water treatment.

If you consider a tall tank (5 feet high by 10 inches in diameter) 1/4 full of sand with a water pipe entering from the center bottom and exiting the center top, and if you consider that if the water flow can hold the sand off the bottom, that is the equivalent to a TPU maintaining or holding up a gain state, then you need to find the right flow rate. Now if you provide a steady fast water flow rate, you will just punch a center hole through the sand and enter the top void but most of the sand will not lift. Provide a steady slow flow and the sand will just sit there. What you need to do is pulse it at a medium flow rate, but not all the time. You need to stop sometimes to let the sand turbulate back downwards then you start again. Slowly, but surely most of the sand will stay off the bottom. But again, you need a pulse, you need it to stop, then to start again. Any constant flow rate will not work. It has to fluctuate otherwise the sand will find the weakest areas to fall back to the base.

Another way of seeing this is when you use a pulsating garden sprinkler system. The main frequency is the steady water pressure applied to the sprinkler, and the chop frequency is the cutting on and off of the applied water pressure. This could be the cannon into cannon analogy.

This may be the requirement for the TPU also. If you pulse at 500,000 hertz and 5000 hertz so that at each 5khz "on" time of the cycle, it is pulsing at 500khz, this is what I mean. Not putting two frequencies together. But more like putting one frequency then chopping it up. The highest frequency will provide the resonance undertone (or overtone) and the chopping frequency will provide the proper nullification because from null to on you get the greatest potential rise, compared to when you remain on all the time.

In the LTPU there is only one potentiometer plainly visible. If the LTPU had a set high frequency pulse, then the pot could be used to regulate the chop frequency.

The question I have is how can this be achieved in circuit terms because I think this is where we can find both resonance and turbulence. You see when we pulse a coil, it creates a wave inside the coil wires. But like any other wave, some of that wave will move backwards once it reaches a resistance point. Our coils and circuits are full of these resistance points even thought we are not using specifically a resistor. So this waving around will move backwards and can then create bottlenecks in the flow of energy. By chopping up the main rider frequency, you are sort of resetting the potential for backward waves as well as for over saturation to clog up the conductor. Does this make any sense at all and if so, how can this be done in circuit terms. I don't want to have two frequencies. The highest frequency can be set and the lowest frequency can be 1/100th of the high frequency so with one main frequency, we need to make the second chop frequency, with a pot on the second to do some finer adjustments.

BEP

@wattsup,

Just a friendly note:

You've posted some nice pics of your devices and mounting method. I hope these devices spend all of their time with the leads shorted using conductive foam or some other method. Static charge, far below what you can feel, will instantly destroy many devices, especially JFETs.

Do yourself a favor and cut a small piece of conductive foam for mounting on the leads until your circuit is ready for power.  ;)

sparks

@Wattsup

   On an off topic comment your fluidized bed description of a conductor got me thinking about the gulf. If they could get a condom on that gulf mess and inject granular activated carbon to make like a mile long fluidized bed of gac alot of the oil could be adsorbed by the charcoal.   They then burn/reactivate the charcoal and reinject the gac into the plume riser.   The thermal energy of the reactivation used to do useful work like turning co2 and water back into sludge and pumped back into the ground where this gooey smelly sticky black shit belongs.  Dead and buried.  Make a new planet called shitball and fire it off towards the sun.  I dont care get it the fuck out of here.  There could be a competition among the energy titans to see how fast a planet could be produced.  You could form the planet into a ball and they could have a soccer game to see which company can get the most pollution burnt up in the chrona of the Sun.  The winner of the competition could be called king corporation and awarded a trophy including but not limited to a big gold bowl and any number of whoes for the executive officers of the corporation.  It would be organized so there is a shitball planet tournament.  Televised as high tech rockets push large black tar balls towards the sun.  Gaming rights could be controlled by the state and large auditoriums set up to watch the shitballs turn into flares 92million miles away.  Give all the corporate guys team uniforms and mascots.  Cheerleaders the whole nine yards.  You could have some microorganism name as the Teams tittles.  Like sprialcooccusnimbiusdoofus team pulls into the lead with 90million metric tons of pure black goo heading straight for solar maximus.  Following by a parsec is viralmenindirtyunderwear with 200 metric tons of sulpherdioxide as the two leaders enter the turn at mercury's gravitational well.
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gyulasun

Quote from: wattsup on June 25, 2010, 08:37:35 PM
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Well I just got my JFETS. You can see the two on the left are the JFETs and then going right from these two is an IRF9540 and an IRF840. Hmmmmmm. I wonder if size does really matter. lololol

Also, I put up a photo of what I have found very convenient to hold my mosfets and Jfets. It is basically an angled three point terminal block that ends with three pins. On these pins I took a standard multi terminal block, cut them in ones and ground down the edges so they can fit on the blue pins. Connections are quick, easy and in case I blow a mosfet, changing is no hassle.

So I will now try out the blotch wall movement idea I had a few pages ago and report back with the results. Now these JFETs are very expensive and I am wondering if I should take up some JFET Insurance. lol

Hope @gyulasun gets back soon cause I will surely need some of his guidance. Meanwhile I will take things very slowly.
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Hi wattsup,

You have a good mounting technic with the MOSFETs it seems, though the size of the heat sink may prove to be small in higher wattage cases when dissipation of the JFETs is over some ten Watts, watch out carefully for sensing heat on the body of the sink with your fingers and take time breaks in testing to allow for cooling down, maybe use a small computer ventillator.

Now heat hence overdissipation is you main enemy, not overvoltage or current. (I say this because you now have over 1000V breakdown voltage devices with over 20-30A current capability if I recall their data correctly.)
Always start with small voltage from your power supply, start with 5-6V DC and increase it gradually and check heat dissipation on the sink.
It is up to you using a single wire from the "positive" output from your FG or you use its "negative" wire too, connected with the negative polarity of the power supply. (Normal EE practice is connecting them.)

Good luck and if you have a question or two, please try to describe the setup you just use, preferably with a schematic if possible.

rgds,  Gyula