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A validation of the UP-SIDE-DOWN phenomena

Started by EMdevices, November 02, 2009, 09:40:48 PM

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innovation_station

Quote from: wattsup on November 11, 2009, 09:39:22 AM
@EM

I made another ring but again nothing and your directions are a little confusing for me to follow.

I would like to know if the ring wire in a single strand or multi-strand.

Maybe for your biggest loop, is it possible to give the complete build spec, ring wire type, awg, length, LED value, cap value. This may be simpler then for others to replicate.

Maybe one last question or request if I may. Can you do the same calculation with a ring that is only 2 1/4 turns like in the FTPU. lol

If the frequency is relative to the ring diameter as SM says, then maybe your calculation method has some relevance to this.

2.25 turns ... now that is damm funny you say that ....

and ill tell you why...

i was working on my advanced ring design yesterday...  im useing 24 fireing coils

2 phases of 12 ... 1 phase  fire at 12 at a  time  .. phase 2 12 fire rappid seccussion .. overlap ..

phase 1 is chugg along mode ... phase 2 is load mode ...

ok when it comes to winding this unit this is where your 2.25 fits my design ...

because of the core i choose i have 5 turn primary ... i chose to rotate the 12 by 5 .. so as it cork screws about my core to induce massive TWIST

AND BY FLUKE YOU MENTION 2.25... LOOPS AROUND THE LOOP ... YOU DO THE MATH ... 12 /5

IST!

INTRESTING THATS ALL  ;D

BTW THERE IS ACTUALLY 24 2.25 LOOPS THERE BOUTS AROUND THIS CORE THIS IS MY MOTOR ...

MY CONTROLLER  DECIDES AS HOW AND WHAT IT DOES ... BUT THE WAY I CHOSE TO WIND IT .. DETURMANS TO A DEGREE THE DIRRECTION OF SPINN ...  AND POLARITY .. 

THE OUT PUT IS IRRELVENT  AT THIS TIME ...

IST!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Yucca

Quote from: tsl on November 11, 2009, 03:37:26 AM
@EM
"1. find a magnetic frequency."

How do you do that? Based on what?

This is a good question. If I attach a wire antenna or coil to my oscilloscope the yes I will see the strongest signal. But the main contributing frequency will depend on the coil or wire length that I attach to my scope.

A spectrum analyser with a callibrated antenna probe would reveal the strongest peak. But using a scope I would like to know the method you employ, because I dont have a speccy analyser.

perhaps you tried many different antenna lengths and found the highest p2p voltage?

innovation_station

maybe this will help ... ali was over to see me last week i have an old marconi tube am radio ... 1930 sometimes...  i may have to take a picture ...

anyhow it is ripped apart on my table ... ALI sees it ... right away she says daddy... that is special ...

she held in her hand the LOOP ANTENNA..

wich is oval ...  pancake style ... 

i said dont i know ALI ...  that is why i have it of course ...

1 end is open .....

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

EMdevices

Hi Stefan,

I agree with you, I would not call this free energy, even though it appears to be freely available.  I personally I'm not that excited about it because I have an idea of the source and it's limitations, that's why I did not try to make any claims or go for the prize.     

Tuning to 60 Hz would not be too terribly hard either, just more wire and bigger caps, but I'm convinced by my research and investigations that SM was not tuned into 60 Hz but into one of the higher frequency PLH (Power Line Harmonics) radiating from the high voltage lines behind his house, as I posted in the other threads and showed in my video taken at his house.

EM

P.S.  @wattsup,  multistrand wire has lower resistance/length at high frequency due to skin effect.
@Yucca,  you did not see my previous setups, ...you need some amplification with a current probe otherwise you won't see much on an ordinary oscilloscope.
@tsl, read my previous postings, I answered that question.

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 11, 2009, 06:09:04 AM
So basically this is not free energy, as you extract the energy
from the radiating grid lines...
Hmm, what about tuning to 60 Hz  ?

Couldn´t this be done too with bigger sized coils and caps ?

hartiberlin

Hmm,
I believe you might have stumbled onto something
that Jason Owens is working on.

He told me recently that the radiation from the stars
and sun is compressing and releasing the earth magnet field a bit
at high frequencies
and that these frequency variations "attach" to magnetic field lines,
when I have understood it right... ( We spoke on a bad Skype connection only,
when I was still tired..)

But he wanted soon to present a new paper about it and is working
on a few experiments and circuit diagramms, everybody can do and verify that these
effects exist..

Maybe you just stumbled upon these effects somehow
and have already worked out the right circuits ?

Well, can you now also have just the big large coil
lighting up an LED without the other 2 coils present ?

Or does it only work, if all the 3 coils lay besides each other ?

Is the 25 Khz you spoke about the largest spike on a spectrum analyzer
or are there also other peaks at other frequencies ?

Are the other frequencies larger in Energy amplitude or lower ?

What frequency has the biggest amplitude ?
Does the frequency vary much over time or is it constant ?

Maybe is there a mobile phone broadcast transmitter on your roof or
in the neighbourhood or a WLAN DSL router  ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum