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Overunity Machines Forum



New Magnetic Motor Principal?

Started by lumen, November 07, 2009, 01:31:10 PM

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specter

Dear lumen!

What is so big deal to show 8 current curring rings and what's so big deal in OU after that????????? More to come??? To be not rough man, what does your FEMM simulation show????? This is all done in any electromotror BTW...

lumen

QuoteThis is all done in any electromotror BTW...

Actually it's not!
In any common motor as the coils are energized, they move to another location where the field has changed. This means that unrecoverable energy was spent doing work.

This motor leaves the coils in the same field polarity and potential as they were when they where energized. This means virtually all the energy can be recovered but work was still done!

All the work but without the cost!




specter

Quote from: lumen on November 09, 2009, 07:31:11 PM
Actually it's not!
In any common motor as the coils are energized, they move to another location where the field has changed. This means that unrecoverable energy was spent doing work.

This motor leaves the coils in the same field polarity and potential as they were when they where energized. This means virtually all the energy can be recovered but work was still done!

All the work but without the cost!

No way! You are talking about something like a synchronous motor, maybe a one called a variable reluctance motor. Is it?? The second thing...  mmm.. there is a Lentz law... so you or invetor means accumulating  back-emf??? Is it???

lumen

QuoteThe second thing...  mmm.. there is a Lentz law

Yes.... Lenz's law.
Well it does exist in all coils and is what will actually give the back EMF when the coil collapses.
So If I put in "X current" and get back "X current" + work done, then Lenz's law did not actually cause a problem.

The problem with most motors is when the coil collapses, it is in a different field state (lower) then when it was energized. This is typical of the standard motor, it is how work gets done!

This design does not fall into this problem. Lenz's law will assure nearly all the energy applied will be returned on the collapsing field.

Additionally, this motor would not produce current if rotated through the balanced field so it cannot be a generator. If no field changes in the coil, no voltage is generated so no generator. This also means  as a motor, no increase in current with increased load.

Once you understand the concept of operation, you will see several other designs using the symmetrical balanced field that can be built with greater power. Even some ALL magnet designs!

OU? This is only the beginning, I'm sure of it!








gyulasun

Lumen

Thanks for the further comments.  I wonder if you are already in the building state for any of your setups shown?  Unfortunately my circumstances at present are not good for tinkering, only at a later time.

rgds, Gyula