Flynn's Parallel Path

[Elvis Oswald]

Good work Drak.

[jake]

I've been studying the Asaoka patent 5,926,083 with interest.

I find it noteworthy that the patent says: "... the inventor considers it posible to make Wp/Win2 > 1."  (claims overunity is possible).

Since the inventor went to all the trouble of constructing the test circuit, etc., why didn't the inventor demonstrate Wp/Win2 > 1?

My gut tells me this patent just doesn't work when you apply a load to the output.

[gyulasun]

Hi,

I think the first step in "checking" the inventor claims would be to test the permanent and electromagnet combination if it really reduces the input power of the electromagnet to 1/40 as he claimed to find.
(See Figs 1 and 2 and the text in Asaoka patent). If it can be approached it will prove that a permanent magnet's flux can "amplify"  the flux of an electromagnet significantly and that the inventor is (partly at least) correct in his statements! The 1/40 reduction is a significant claim/achievement in itself and it can be checked.

The next step would be to find a setup (any setup, not only that of the patent) in which this amount of input power reduction could be utilized i.e. make use of the combination of EM-PM magnets: imagine a setup that initially based on electromagnets and needs a certain input power to complete a certain task. Now you could try to combine those electromagnets with permanent magnets to achive a reduction in the input power and still perform the same task.
For instance have a look at Paul Noel's following page at peswiki:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:FPPMT:Paul_Noel and scroll down to "Parallel Path Backdraft ". There Paul suggests inserting a PP setup INTO another PP setup and he says about at least 4:1 gain. What did he draw? He combined an EM-PM setup with another EM-PM setup.

I do not know yet if the full setups or their variants shown in the Asaoka patent is capable of  giving Wp/Win2 > 1 or not.

I think if the inventor had demonstrated in the patent any overunity he would not have been granted the US Patent because of the perpetual motion claim.

Regards
Gyula

[jake]

I'm not sure what direction this is heading in at this point.

Clearly Asaoka (from information presented in his patent) constructed the device that he patented.  He claims in the patent that overunity is possible.  He had the device constructed already, and proved that it took 1/40th of the power to do whatever, and yet he didn't go on to show the end result of this feat.

How can the patent be for a generator if the thing won't generate.  This device is a transformer.  It isn't "generating" anything until it is overunity.

[Drak]

  Ok, I've done the weight test using water. Without the magnets in place using the traditional horseshoe electromagnet, I kept filling the container full of water untill it broke away. I kept removing and adding water to narrow down the close to exact amount the traditional electromagnet would hold. Then I put the magnets in place and directed the path. It did not break away using the same amount of water that was in there from before (using just the electromagnet). I had to fill up the container all the way and almost overfilled it to get it to break away.
 
  It seems to me all that is going on here is just adding up the electromagnets and permanent magnets and focusing them all in one direction. The extra water that I added (to get it to break away from the FPP) seemed to be just what would be needed to break away from just the total of the permanent magnets I used. The fact that all of that force (combined E and P magnets) can be directed in one direction and then instantaniously switched to the other end leaving no force at the oppisite end is enough to get me to build a motor out of it. So to me the overunity here is from the power of only the permanent magnets.

  I do not see any amplifying going on here. I could be wrong because it was a crude experiment and I have no expensive scientific measurement tools. In either case I do see a way to harness the power of the permanent magnet wether 3.47 times or 2 times the power in. ANYTHING over the amount put in would satisfy me. The math I couldn't care less about.

  Drak