alufoil cell

[Sojourner]

I can see where one might ge the other stuff, but the 'acitve charcoall powder' is something I only remeber seeing in flatullence pills and expensive filters. Is there a common, cheap source?

SOj

Hi All,
enclosed is a picture of the alufoilcell in a drinking glas.
There the inner walls are covered with alufoil, then comes the papertowel,
then the active charcoal powder and inside the active charcoal powder
is the stainless steel wool.
Over here on the pic you can see only the alufoil and the red-white papertowel.

The cell was connected to the 50 ohm load already now for 3 days and the voltage
is now down to 0.28 Volts.
If I am going to let it rest a few hours and add some fresh water, it will
again start at around 0.5 Volts with the 50 Ohm load.

Regards, Stefan.

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi,
my Alufoil cell is now up to 0.56 Volts now again at the 100
Ohm load. it now has risen since about 4 days all in all on the 100 Ohm
load contineously !
It seems the cell is formating itsself while it dries a bit...
Maybe there is a special crystalisation at the molecular level
when the cell dries and produces crystals surfaces which convert
heat to electrical energy somehow.

Regards, Stefan.

hi stefan,
congratulation, it still will increase in voltage to about 0.6 to 0.7 Volt and probably will go down again and then will go up again, at least my AG-test cell is now at the third cycle after a total of over 800 hours under load. Try to cover the whole glass with a plastic bag, and squeeze the whole setup together maybe with a rubber band or so.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi,
my Alufoil cell is now up to 0.56 Volts now again at the 100
Ohm load. it now has risen since about 4 days all in all on the 100 Ohm
load contineously !
It seems the cell is formating itsself while it dries a bit...
Maybe there is a special crystalisation at the molecular level
when the cell dries and produces crystals surfaces which convert
heat to electrical energy somehow.

Regards, Stefan.

Hi stefan ,
it is right that there is a crystaline surface developed due to the working under load, but it has nothing to do with converting heat, because all my tests in regards to heating my AG-cells shows the same result that there is no change if exposed to heat up to 75 degree C or cold down to freezer temperatur.
I believe it has also something to do with the salt involved what are if crystalized has crystals with a different structure ( seen under microscope, verry fine with a uniform form) and who brings different effects if you disolve this afterwards again. has more conductivity and higher TDS total dissolve solids) values
If you take a total dry cell you only need verry little destilled water to reaktivate them as long as the alufoile is still intact.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

I can see where one might ge the other stuff, but the 'acitve charcoall powder' is something I only remeber seeing in flatullence pills and expensive filters. Is there a common, cheap source?

SOj

Hi All,
enclosed is a picture of the alufoilcell in a drinking glas.
There the inner walls are covered with alufoil, then comes the papertowel,
then the active charcoal powder and inside the active charcoal powder
is the stainless steel wool.
Over here on the pic you can see only the alufoil and the red-white papertowel.

The cell was connected to the 50 ohm load already now for 3 days and the voltage
is now down to 0.28 Volts.
If I am going to let it rest a few hours and add some fresh water, it will
again start at around 0.5 Volts with the 50 Ohm load.

Regards, Stefan.

hi SOj,
it depends where you live, here in the us you can have some charcoal granules from a waterfilter like the undersink filter unit's. but be carefull shake the cartridge and listen if it sounds like granules ( loose stuff) because there are solid versions out there with a kind of feltpaper who dont do anythings.
Still this granules are not as powerfull as mine power powder which is a special mixture but you can experiementing and see results.
greetings
walt 

[hartiberlin]

Soujourner,
go to a shop that sells aquariums filter stuff or go to Ebay and buy
active charcoal for filtering air or aquarium water.
The most active charcoal comes from coconut skin wood,
which was burned without oxygen and only charcoal carbon remains.

This charcoal carbon is not very conductive, so real graphite powder
is much better, cause it is much more conductive, but graphite powder
is also much more expensive and harder to get.
Graphit is a modification of carbon and can only be got by hard pressing
and heating for long time normal charcoal or coal.
Thus it is very energy demanding to produce graphite.

So it would be very good, if somebody could invent a method
to produce high conductive graphite from charcoal with
very low energy demand !
Maybe it could be invented a chemical reaction to produce
graphite powder from charcoal or coal. That would be very
efficient and nic to have cheap graphite powder, cause this will
very much lower the prize of these new watercells.

I think the formating of the crystals of the NaCl within the Carbon
molecule and the crystalisation on the metal surfaces helps to
generate the long living electricity from these cells.

I just added again water into the graphite and then the
crystallisation goes back into solution and the voltage droped from 0.5 Volt to
0.3 Volts on the 100 Ohm load.
So I will let this dry again and see, if I will get again 0.5 Volts,
when the crystalisation will occur again.

Regards, Stefan.