Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits

[PaulLowrance]

broli,

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[Yucca]

I wonder, could a smaller cap be used say 1F and then do the dumping or switching back to battery at a higher frequency? Or is there something special about the 650F caps?

[gadgetmall]

@All:

I am just going to back up .99's comments.  I have read quite a few of Gadget's postings and looked at his schematic.  Gadget has not done anything even remotely close to proving that this is an over unity device.  The most basic measurements of power out vs. power in or energy out vs energy in have not been done.  In addition to this, Gadget is not capable of articulating what the circuit is doing in a proper manner and it is very obvious that his understanding of electronics is very limited.

I would strongly advise anyone contemplating spending the money and time to replicate this device to not do so - you will be wasting your time.  As an alternative, you should encourage Gadget to back up his claims with real measurements proving his claim.  Personally I don't believe that Gadget is capable of doing this.

This is nothing more than another "false alarm" where somebody gets all excited about a JT-like circuit that charges a capacitor using a discharging inductor going through a diode.  There is nothing here.

Some of you may remember the "Imhotep" excitement where there was a huge buzz over turning a computer fan into a small Bedini motor.  The name of the thread was "Free energy at last - A must see" or something like that.  Imhotep became a "rock star" but nothing he and his wife ever posted came even remotely close to being a free energy device.

I encourage all of you that are contemplating replications to just sit back and chill for a long time and see what happens.  I assure you that you will be wasting your time and money.  Instead demand that Gadget prove his claim first.  That would be the wisest course of action.

MileHigh

What is your Education ? 9 th grade ? You will Not DEMAND anything  from Me and further more you are not welcome here . Your Statement is plain blatant Flaming and doesn't mean nothing at all .. you cant take 5 minutes  of your sweet precious time to verify to make one .. You are a fool/s fool  . You can't have it . You lose already bud. Go away . you will not be seeing any of my work . Stephan will . and the people that make it possible ONLY Period .
I have all the Brain power i need to get  an ou prize and far exceeds anything you could or can't do . Don't believe me ? start with a
fully charged AA battery. This battery has a know Amp/Hour
capacity. This is you input reference!!!!!!!!!!!
Now, run the circuit and charge up the super capacitor. Dump the
ultra capacitor into a know resistive load. Say a 20 Ohm resistor
with enough wattage to survive the heat. Make a note on how long
time it took to dump the capacitor. While dumping the load, make
several voltage readings over the resistor. Now average the
voltage readings to get a mean value Notating this on  my notebook.
Now you repeat the above until you have used up all charge in the AA
battery.
Then you add together all the mean values you got from the resistor
measurements and do a little math to see how much power you
got out of the circuit. Use Watt/Hour as you reference.

. You have no idea what i am capable of Milehigh

Albert

[jeanna]

@ Yucca,
I was just thinking the same thing.

Bill has some 10F caps.

Hey Bill,
Would you be willing to try it with your 10 farad supercaps then put a resistor in series and use it as the battery of a joule thief.
I know you already did the first part, but if you add a resistor the cap will be lower and slower and I am wondering what kind of voltage/charge will come into the second 10F cap.

I would like to try lighting an incandescent light bulb with this  C-E charged cap and time it etc, but I am afraid of the clumsiness of holding wires to round metal light bulb bases, using the 650F cap. 10F is better for starters.

Are you willing?
Or someone else.

jeanna
edit
I just tried this
I have a 1F thing called super from RS

I charged it up on my present jtc on the table which is running 34 leds christmas string (see pic last night) and I stuck the cap in the C-E spot.
It charged for a while so more farads could be there? and when I used it in the place of the battery, it was strong enough to light the string off the secondary.
Only for a brief moment, but it did build enough charge to do this.
but,
The string goes out for the time it is charging.

thats all for now!
j

[gadgetmall]

He claims he already has Paul. That is the point. No further effort will be taken to prove it, which is what he is saying. So if you are not yet satisfied with what he has presented so far as proof and you are expecting something else or more, I am trying to tell you that this is all you are going to see according to him.

.99

Again you are wrong .pony . I have stated at least 12 times for someone to replicate my findings . Your total wrong .I got and yes Stephan will have it . If you want it build it other wise thank your for your interest .

Al