Joule Thief 101

[tinman]

All that I wanted to do was make it clear that I was not lying about the epoxy coil business, that's all.  But clearly Brad you could not comprehend what I was saying and/or you took that as an opportunity for yet another display of gratuitous ugliness.  You have really exposed yourself in this thread.

No MH--i defended myself against your lies--and you know it.
How will anyone else know it?,well they just have to read the thread--it's all there in black and white.

We both know that me answering the coil question is moot.

No-we all now know you cannot answer your own coil question--a question you judged EMJ and Wattsup on.

And here is another example of you being sick, for lack of a better term.  You can't possibly know that I cannot answer the question.

I know without doubt that you cannot answer the question.

I am no liar, but based on what you are stating above I am forced to conclude that you are unable to come up with a ridiculously simple test to determine the dot convention for a transformer.

Even though you yourself posted what i said-->quote: Guess i could use a compass and DC current to work it out.
You then state-->quote:Yes, you do indeed mention a compass, and I suppose that if push comes to shove you could use a compass to determine the dot convention

You need serious help MH.
You should have left me out of your lies.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Brad:

It's pure sleaze for you to pose a question and then pull a bait and switch where you draw extra air into the destination tank with a venturi without stating that in the first place.  You have no shame and you were too lazy or sleazy to even define the question properly.

And I will concede that you are most likely correct about the standard air tank test and I am wrong.  This is a setup where the environment itself exchanges energy both ways with the two air tanks whereas for two capacitors there is a one-way exchange of energy with the environment, the heat is considered lost.  When the pressurized tank is discharged into the empty air tank, energy is lost to heat in the valve, the pressurized tank does work on the unpressurized tank, the pressurized tank draws heat from the environment, and the unpressurized tank starts to put heat into the environment.  So this is a thermodynamic problem and accounting for everything is pretty tricky when this is not your forte (like me).  I was silly by forgetting about the thermodynamic angle and the energy exchange with the environment.

<<< When the same tests were carried out with the venturi in play,the results showed an increase of 16% of stored potential energy in the two tanks. >>>

Perhaps, but now you are playing in the big leagues and you can't cherry pick if you are going to be thorough.  Energy had to be taken out of the external environment to do that, so there is no real energy gain.

I am not even going to try to work out the specifics for the two tanks and will take your word for it.  I would not even consider the venturi example, it's just a stupid bait and switch on your part.

<<< Time and time again,you have made claims that i am wrong,and time and time again,i have proven you to be wrong-->and it just happened again. >>>

It just happened again, yes.  But you seriously would not want to have an independent audit of errors in this thread made by both of us.  Because of your OCD, your head would explode if all of your errors were pointed out to you.  For Christ's sake, you read your own quote with a jarring spelling mistake and five minutes later you forgot that fact or it didn't even register in your brain that you had read your own quote.  So you end up accusing me of your own spelling mistake - five minutes after you read your own mistake!

<<< No MH--i defended myself against your lies--and you know it. >>>

I did not lie and it's not my fault that your brain cannot process information properly and understand what I stated in my posting.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Nice try MH.

It would seem that you do not understand unit volume and unit pressure relationships.

You are way beyond making a fool of yourself MH, you have become so ridiculous that it is getting painful to watch.

What's painful is reading you trying to describe your little "exchange of pressure" example.   It's barely comprehensible and you are too lazy to make a diagram or two.  Sounds familiar.  Your "discussion" about the cap discharging business with Brad is another exercise in obtuse strangeness.

You have been chasing after me for a month or more now, and 90% of the time it was just a gratuitous ugly display like somebody is rubbing off on you in the wrong way.

[minnie]

   Have I got it? You transfer from one tank to another and end up with say
   66% of your original pressure so in fact you're only losing 33% by doing
   so. No overunity power supply here!!
             John.

[MileHigh]

Here is a big fat bone for Brad.

To paraphrase Bob Dylan, "Six years on the bench and you're still stuck on the day shift."  If you want to go from crawling to walking and get off of the day shift, then pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.