Joule Thief 101

[MileHigh]

Brad:

You object to my statement stating that when you pump power into an ideal voltage source that that energy is effectively gone and you can forget about it.  That's why when Verpies asked the question I cracked a joke.

So I will ask you the question:  What happens to the energy if you pump 100 watts of power into an ideal voltage source for 10 seconds?

MileHigh

[tinman]

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Brad:

You object to my statement stating that when you pump power into an ideal voltage source that that energy is effectively gone and you can forget about it.  That's why when Verpies asked the question I cracked a joke.

So I will ask you the question:  ?

MileHigh

First we should ask--what is a source?

Source-a place, person, or thing from which something originates or can be obtained.
--a body or process by which energy or a particular component enters a system.
--Place from where things originate.

So you see MH,understanding what a source is,shows us the the source of your ideal voltage(the ideal voltage source) is what contains the energy delivered to the inductor.

If the energy delivered by the ideal voltage source is infinite,then the energy contained within that source is infinite.
The ideal voltage source that delivers the ideal voltage, !is! the source of the energy.

Now you can try as you wish to redefine !source! as you see fit. But the very definition of !source! is from where it comes from--the energy comes from the source--the source contains the energy that is delivered to the receiver--the coil.

So yes-i object to your definition of a source.

What happens to the energy if you pump 100 watts of power into an ideal voltage source for 10 seconds

As an ideal voltage source dose not dissipate power,then that energy is contained within the source.

Brad

[MileHigh]

As an ideal voltage source dose not dissipate power,then that energy is contained within the source.

Brad

Yeah, so does the ideal voltage source have a counter like a doorman's clicker and it counts Joules that are added to the "container" that contains the energy?

Let me ask you this: Is there any observable difference in the ideal voltage source from before the extra Joules are pumped in to after the extra Joules are pumped in?

[tinman]

Yeah, so does the ideal voltage source have a counter like a doorman's clicker and it counts Joules that are added to the "container" that contains the energy?

Let me ask you this: Is there any observable difference in the ideal voltage source from before the extra Joules are pumped in to after the extra Joules are pumped in?

Your lost MH.


Brad

[MileHigh]

I am not in the least bit lost and I am waiting for you to answer this question:

Let me ask you this: Is there any observable difference in the ideal voltage source from before the extra Joules are pumped in to after the extra Joules are pumped in?