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Global Warming

Started by PaulLowrance, November 25, 2009, 08:45:51 AM

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Azorus

Did you actually read the pition or just assume what it meant?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition


PaulLowrance

Quote from: Azorus on December 04, 2009, 10:01:22 AM
Pual,

"31,000 American scientists opposed, on scientific grounds, to the hypothesis of "human-caused global warming"  Key word is "Human-caused."  This is not about if global warming is real. The data is overwhelming that global warming is real. The temperatures are increasing. This is about what's causing it.

The first line says that 31000 american scientists oppose human-cuased global warming.  Then you go on to write that the dabate is about what causes global warming, because you support human-cuased global warming.  How can you present facts for the other side and say you are not contradicting yourself?

How is presenting facts contradicting myself? First of all, you should really read because the 31,000 signatures is one of the worst petitions ever that has been exposed by the science community. You can throw away that petition. The were no 31,000 scientists. It's duplicate names. The question asked in the petition is not what the organization claimed on their home page, etc. etc.

Paul

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Azorus on December 04, 2009, 10:07:43 AM
We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.


straight from the petition.  So still no mention of global warming?

Sorry, but are you on drugs or something? What's your point?  You have found no contradiction. As stated the petition in question is about human-caused global warming.

Paul

Azorus

Okay so now if we can just throw it away why where you presenting it as a fact in your original post?

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Azorus on December 04, 2009, 10:14:43 AM
Okay so now if we can just throw it away why where you presenting it as a fact in your original post?

You're wrong again. I was quoting, and never said the petition was correct. Hello? The petition is garbage. Did you even read the wiki article? The wiki article shreds that petition as it goes into the details.

Paul