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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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dradak1

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 07, 2010, 12:43:43 PM
I very much agree! Steorn already said everyone, including TK, is not doing it right. Maybe there's something to some of the designs posted in this thread, but I can't get what Sean said out of my head. We don't know any details about the magnets or toroid core. The toroid could even contain magnet(s). It could be transversely or longitudinally annealed. There might be an air gap inside. Same goes for the magnet. What kind of magnet is it. Steorn could have coated an ferrite or an alnico for all we know. Maybe each magnet is made up of numerous magnets oriented in various ways.

BTW, I replicated my magnet cooling effect a few days ago on an entirely different setup.  ;D

Anyway Paul - even if TK & rest of the "gang" are not replicating orbo properly - still they are so many ideas that existing systems can be improved - not to mentioned more "bones" for new brains. :-)

Dragan

0c

Quote from: gravityblock on January 07, 2010, 07:05:14 PM
Could Steorn be using magnetic wire with the toroid being an air core?  The magnetic wire will allow a good attraction force for the rotor magnets while a low pulse of current could saturate this magnetic wire to let the rotor magnets pass the toroid.

Please correct me where I am wrong.  I am only making assumptions and throwing out ideas from what I have observed.

1)  The rotor magnets in the Orbo have quite a bit of distance to the outside wire layer of the toroid, which would diminish the attractive force to the inner core.

2)  The more layers you have on the toroid means even more distance between the core and rotor magnets, which would diminish the attractive force even more.

3)  There is no way the rotor magnets at these distances from the core with a very slight attractive force could possibly help the pulse of current to saturate the core to allow the rotor magnets to pass.  The pulse of current will be doing almost all of the work in this case.

With a magnetic wire, these problems are not an issue even if the rotor magnets have a distance to the outside layer of the toroid since the magnets will be attracted to the very first outside wire layer.  The rotor magnets in this case will help to saturate the magnetic wire, allowing for less input energy for the pulse of current to let the magnets pass by.  This allows the magnets to do most of the work.  If the magnets do more work than the pulse of current, then you have OU.

Any thoughts on this?


GB

I tried to start a conversation on this topic over on the Steorn forum last month:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=62328&Focus=2394809#Item_22

I didn't get much feedback.

0c

penno64

Quote from: plengo on January 05, 2010, 02:08:35 PM
I think you guys should watch this video from Bedini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYh8W3_EZjc

He clearly states what I said a few pages before about the A field. I am more convinced now that that is the case based on the speed increase from some replicators here.

Fausto.

Is that what JB was using, simply a coil of wire with no core (air core) ???

A, Penno

gammarayburst

--just found a pure generator design that seems to be working on a principle some what like the Steorn motor, but in a pure generator form. 
Here are the links >
http://www.youtube.com/user/LaFonteGroup
http://fdp.nu/shared/manager.asp?d=files\ButchLaFonte\Switcher\

penno64

Hi Guys,

Just replaced the ferrite toroids with a couple of large pinball machine solenoid coils (No core).

Amazing that it runs so well and with negligable current.

I am still using my Hall Effect sensor and IRF540N fet and have been running this motor from a near dead (9v no load) 12v SLA battery, feeding the spike back into battery via  a large diode.

Let you know how long she runs.

Kind Regards, Penno.

p.s. that JB is a wizz!