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[Airstriker]

@Pirate
So why do people keep patent things if it's the way you say it is ? Would you patent your OU device if you had one ?

[Pirate88179]

I don't think I understand your question?

Why do people patent things if it is the way I say it is?

They patent them to protect their device from other making it and selling it for profit.  This has nothing to do with what I was posting about.

Paul was saying that if he sold a device that was not patented, that here in the US someone else THAT DID NOT INVENT the device could patent it and stop him from selling it.  That was the point of my post to explain that this was incorrect information.

You have to be the original inventor of the device AND it can not have been disclosed to the general public. (there is a time period for this which I think is 1 year)

So, you could invent a device, start selling it and get a patent on it...or not.  If you didn't, I might be able to buy your device but I should not be able to patent it.  EVEN if I did somehow manage to get a patent, which does sometimes happen as I mention before in my case, once I told you to quit selling your device and you found out about my bogus patent, it is a simple matter to get the patent deemed null and void as I was not the original inventor.

Does this make better sense now?  This was in response to the scenario that Paul had described.

No, I would not patent any of my energy devices for many reasons.  Most of them are based upon Tesla or Stubblefield's work anyway but the main reason is based upon what my patent attorney from years ago told me.  He said that if I were to obtain a patent, first, all of my drawings and schematics would now be published for all to see along with instructions on how the device works.  Second, part of the patent law dictates that you must vigorously defend your patent against any and ALL violators.  This means if General electric (just for example) jumped your patent, you would have to defend it or it is considered surrendered. 

Fine, right?  Except, that even back then, the average cost of a patent defense lawsuit cost over a million dollars and I am sure it is higher now.  So what if 10 companies jump your patent but you can only afford to defend against one of them?  You just surrendered your patent rights.

Plus, unlike Paul, and some others, I am here for the open source which I believe in.  I will not be selling any devices to any one.  That is what this site is supposed to be about.

Bill

[Omnibus]

@Pirate88179,

Thanks a lot. That was very insightful. I hope all the friends with their working gravitational, spinning or solid-state etc. OU machines read this carefully, understand it well and drop all that unnecessary secrecy and games. Their inevitable remuneration will come about in a different way, other than through wasting money and efforts for patents. Research in this field (the field of OU devices) has to stay open source which is its very essence, to begin with.

[PaulLowrance]

One open sources their work by protecting it with a patent. Forums, blogs, and wikies used to hold weight in the court of law, but no longer. I provided the references for this some time ago. That includes a provisional patent. There are a lot of companies that qualify as prior-art for a provisional patent.

I would be very cautious of anyone who tells you not to get a patent.

[dirt diggler]

You nailed it Pirate,  if an OU device is built, there is NO reason to patent it, because every company in the world will want to build them, and there is no way anyone can afford to defend a patent against that.  Patents are just money wasted.
Spend the money/time on the research, and development, NOT patents.