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[PaulLowrance]

The variable theoretical maximum COP of a standard heat pump can be as high as 9.22. The usual home heat pump has an efficiency of only about 50% or less, so at least half of all its energy input is lost.  As you can see, COP measurements could be meaningless also.  The real test is a self-runner with a super cap.

It's very strange that you try to introduce heat pump COP with the orbo. Read about it at wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pump#Efficiency

Quote, "When comparing the performance of heat pumps, it is best to avoid the word "efficiency" which has a very specific thermodynamic definition. The term coefficient of performance (COP) is used to describe the ratio of useful heat movement to work input."

Heat pump COP describes the useful heat moved.

COP describes for the orbo means the amount of power produced to input power. My "tiny orbo replication" measured at producing 1.73 times more power output than input. It does not matter to me if you people want to use COP or efficiency, but a lot of people in the "free energy" community (example, Tom Bearden) use COP.

[PaulLowrance]

What good is a high COP if you are not able to make use of all the extra energy to keep it running? How long a battery runs can sometimes be even more important than just the COP alone. Take your Orbo replication and your claims of COP>2.5 and try measuring your COP again after your battery has died and let me know how it turns out! LOL.

Wrong. A COP > 1 tells the science community there's excess energy. Have you ever heard of improvement?

How long it runs on a battery is meaningless info, and IMO out right deceptive. Are you people trying to mislead legit researchers? The goal is not to produce a device the consumes the least amount of power, but one that has a COP > 1.

Very interesting. As stated for years, this website would be the *LAST* place on Earth anyone should announce a legit self-runner. IMO it would be ignored like the plague, and who knows what thugs would be kicking down that poor persons door.

[gravityblock]

COP describes for the orbo means the amount of power produced to input power. My "tiny orbo replication" measured at producing 1.73 times more power output than input.

Then why you don't have a self-runner?  What are you waiting for?  If it's producing 1.73 times more power output than input according to your COP measurements, then close the loop.  If it can't run itself, then the COP measurements are meaningless, that was the reason for the heat pump analogy and it went right over your head.

Go argue with the other person who told you the same thing about how the COP measurements could be meaningless.  Also, there's always a possibility your COP measurements are wrong.  For you to think otherwise, is not very wise IMO.....but you've been proving this over and over again.


GB

[PaulLowrance]

Then why you don't have a self-runner?  What are you waiting for?  If it's producing 1.73 times more power output than input according to your COP measurements, then close the loop.

The question should be, why didn't you read my blog page on my measurements? It clearly says that the losses from electrical resistance was removed from the calculations in order to detect if there was excess energy.

If it can't run itself, then the COP measurements are meaningless, that was the reason for the heat pump analogy and it went right over your head.

Wow, "meaningless?"  You would call the confirmation of excess energy "meaningless?"  Have you people every heard of improvement. The last ~ week I've been working on a solid-state design of mine, but today I'll be getting back to the "tiny orbo replication" to improve it by reducing the electrical wire resistance (more turns in parallel), placing 4 magnets instead of 2, and balancing the machine by adding the 2nd toroid instead of just 1 toroid since in its present design there's a considerable tug on the ball bearings in one direction.



It's kind of funny watching this forum, in a sad way. The moment I came here years ago I could have sworn I was in a massive theatrical play, and I've been to countless forums on various topics. Never have I seen anything like this place. Just weird! Funny how you people avoid COP or efficiency measurements like the plague. And now you're actually attempting to discourage it, lol. Big Oil was caught red handed paying people & groups who are against global warming. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they're also paying thugs under the table to distract from legit excess energy research.

[PaulLowrance]

The variable theoretical maximum COP of a standard heat pump can be as high as 9.22.

And FYI, the "tiny orbo replication" is not about pumping hot air from a heated chamber to get some high COP measurements. Call it whatever you want. Personally I've used COP definition in this community because Tom Bearden uses it, but I have no problems using "efficiency" instead.