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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

@forsalebabyshoesneverworn,

I've discussed it many times and I'll mention it now once again. The overunity idea, specifically the idea that CoE can be violated is exactly the opposite of a business idea. This is as anti-business as can be. My understanding is that not only it cannot make any money for the inventor in the long run but any business that would have anything to do with it would be out of their minds. That's a sucidal idea for the business. Even more, it is suicidal for the type of society we're living in. Once widely spread, the OU machines will have such far-reaching consequences which will dwarf the industrial revolution with its steam engine hands down. This would be a revolution beyond imagination which will drastically change our society to the point beyond recognition. I would be surprised if the countries would remain as separate entities as a result of such revolution. That's what the current elites are dreading 

Despite the propaganda, presenting our society as a free society, the truth is that it is efficiently controlled and no concept that would free it from the economic and financial discrepancies and stranglehold it's in would ever be tolerated. No symbols of that suppression such as, say, the Nobel prizes, would ever be awarded for such a concept which would inherently free the society from the grip of the system functioning as a deeply socially stratified mold.

I think that's the reason why there has been and is such a vehement push by the powers that be to make people convinced that perpetuum mobile has never existed historically, although it probably has but had been squandered for the purposes of preserving the type of system we "enjoy" living in. So, all these companies such as Steorn are just dreamers if they expect revenue form OU machines. I admire the fact that they have been able to raise even that much money by somehow convincing the wealthy that investing in such an enterprise is more worthy than spending money for yachts, jewelry and Patek Philips. However, return on investment by selling licenses is highly unlikely for the reasons mentioned above and will only remain a sweet dream.

In my view, the best anyone who thinks he has an OU device can do is make it available to as many people as possible throughout the world, promptly, at that, before it's squashed by the conservative elites trying to preserve the status quo. Even a brief browsing through the various forums will reveal the level of animosity and the readiness to drown the proponents of OU in a drop of water by paid and unpaid zealous activists and their opportunistic sycophants in their determination to completely obliterate the free energy movement. It depends on people like you and me and on our proper understanding of the ways to convince society, to prevent those zealous activists and their opportunistic lackeys from winning once again. Now we're in the age of internet, international flights and sophisticated manufacturing and measuring equipment which makes it harder for the servant of the OU suppressors to have their way as they are used to have it in the past. Nevertheless, this new battle, enhanced by the achievements of the modern times, has just begun and we have to wage it as efficiently as those new tools allow us to.

Omega_0

I wish to correct something that I said in a previous post. In the demo the power supply is being used only to power the optical switch. The toroids are being powered by a battery.
You can see that in an earlier video (Video 1/6) of the setup.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

Omnibus

Quote from: Omega_0 on February 03, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
I wish to correct something that I said in a previous post. In the demo the power supply is being used only to power the optical switch. The toroids are being powered by a battery.
You can see that in an earlier video (Video 1/6) of the setup.

It's power, then, should be added to the input power (just for completeness -- it's probably negligible).

lostcauses10x

Only comparison that should be done is the input cost to the out put cost.
This can be done by joule heating input only (not subtracting flyback): and out put joule cost.
The rate of change will be the same for both if the rest of what goes on in the black box is not subtracted from the input cost.

NO OU.

They show you the black box, they tell you what is going on in the black box and they never never show you  real output being greater than input, thought they claim it.

It is exactly the opposite, of saying "Here in my black box, you can see what goes in, and what goes out" but never what is in the black box.

Steorn never never shows real input to an output. They just give you crap about what is in the black box.  They are not making mistakes they are leading folks around and around the bush..

The last demo is to supposedly show out put rate of change is such it is OU, Yet they subtract from the input after the black box part.  (not a real input calculation).

And then compare it to a coil heating as output.. Yet that out put coil never get hot enough to even show on the thermal imaging. 

Demand real input to output.
Input to black box and out put from black box.

But don't worry about it, you will never get it from them.

Make em, play with them and learn...



Omnibus

Quote from: lostcauses10x on February 03, 2010, 01:15:20 PM
Only comparison that should be done is the input cost to the out put cost.
This can be done by joule heating input only (not subtracting flyback): and out put joule cost.
The rate of change will be the same for both if the rest of what goes on in the black box is not subtracted from the input cost.

NO OU.

They show you the black box, they tell you what is going on in the black box and they never never show you  real output being greater than input, thought they claim it.

It is exactly the opposite, of saying "Here in my black box, you can see what goes in, and what goes out" but never what is in the black box.

Steorn never never shows real input to an output. They just give you crap about what is in the black box.  They are not making mistakes they are leading folks around and around the bush..

The last demo is to supposedly show out put rate of change is such it is OU, Yet they subtract from the input after the black box part.  (not a real input calculation).

And then compare it to a coil heating as output.. Yet that out put coil never get hot enough to even show on the thermal imaging. 

Demand real input to output.
Input to black box and out put from black box.

But don't worry about it, you will never get it from them.

Make em, play with them and learn...

That's incorrect and is due to a general lack of understanding of what's going on in the Orbo device.