STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omnibus]

See, I'm looking at this not only as something applicable to eOrbo type of measurement but as a general methodology which should apply to correct power measurements in all those Bedini, Valeri Ivanov, Kapanadze, you name it kinds of cases. So far this most important aspect is neglected overwhelmingly and that amounts to wasted efforts. The only ones I've seen doing these experiments the way they should be done are Steorn. I've said that more than once. Unfortunately, the equipment they are using is beyond anybody's reach and that's probably the reason why no studies matching the quality of their research can be found, not even Naudin's, not even some of the zealous naysayers' attempts.

[exnihiloest]

See, I'm looking at this not only as something applicable to eOrbo type of measurement but as a general methodology which should apply to correct power measurements in all those Bedini, Valeri Ivanov, Kapanadze, you name it kinds of cases. So far this most important aspect is neglected overwhelmingly and that amounts to wasted efforts. The only ones I've seen doing these experiments the way they should be done are Steorn. I've said that more than once. Unfortunately, the equipment they are using is beyond anybody's reach and that's probably the reason why no studies matching the quality of their research can be found, not even Naudin's, not even some of the zealous naysayers' attempts.

Measurement is not the reason. It is not enough to measure. It is as important to understand how you measure and what you measure. Steorn measures losses for spin alignment and count it for usable work!
As it is unbelievable that engineers can make such mistakes, it is likely that Steorn is a real scam and will join Lutec, Bedini, Perendev and other gurus of free energy searching for funds and never able to present a duplicable working machine.

[FatChance!!!]

I have a cheap but decent USB scope but we were talking about probes.

If you buy one of the ebay scopes you will get the probes as well. Then get rid of the USB scope.
Believe me, it's not possible to build good and accurate probes by yourself.
Good scope probes are made professionally and is adapted to fit the properties of a scope input.
The is usually done by a adjustable probe capacitor to make it match the scope input capacitance perfectly.

[Omega_0]

Yes thats right. If the ordinary probes and scope don't detect anything then the obvious solution is ebay or taking the setup to some lab for measurements. Thats what I also think.

[Omnibus]

Measurement is not the reason. It is not enough to measure. It is as important to understand how you measure and what you measure. Steorn measures losses for spin alignment and count it for usable work!
As it is unbelievable that engineers can make such mistakes, it is likely that Steorn is a real scam and will join Lutec, Bedini, Perendev and other gurus of free energy searching for funds and never able to present a duplicable working machine.

The above text unnecessarily clogs this discussion. Keep this kind of crap to yourself.