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Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

Started by agentgates, January 05, 2010, 09:28:18 AM

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beboszek

Little bulb connected to the collector coil. Shines bright (P~2.5W). Collector made with AWG20 insulated wire. Rectifying diode and capacitor 180u connected as well. Scope shot shows voltage on the bulb and capacitor. Voltage is DC 9.7V "with some hash on it"

@Lindsay
Thanks

@MACEDONIA CD
I do believe in TPU working, you misunderstood me. Please do not write like that any more without knowing what I think


wings

Quote from: beboszek on January 14, 2010, 06:33:35 AM
Little bulb connected to the collector coil. Shines bright (P~2.5W). Collector made with AWG20 insulated wire. Rectifying diode and capacitor 180u connected as well. Scope shot shows voltage on the bulb and capacitor. Voltage is DC 9.7V "with some hash on it"

@Lindsay
Thanks



@MACEDONIA CD
I do believe in TPU working, you misunderstood me. Please do not write like that any more without knowing what I think



GREAT  ;D
what you put as input?

BEP

Quote from: beboszek on January 14, 2010, 03:54:52 AM
@ Stefan & @zerotensor & You are wrong guys! For clarity I will say, that without ANY load waveform looks identical.

@StefanWith all due respect Stefan; as I wrote above, now Im focused on understanding effect, not building everything and anyhow. If I see sth interesting again, I will post
Yes, its 50% duty cycle sq wave

Marek

@Marek

Stick with your plan. You have the correct approach.

Have you tried shorting one of the collectors with the shortest possible jumper while carrying a load on another collector?

Good luck!

BEP

Vortex1

Nice to have all these running updates in the threads, but why not post a pdf of all pertinent data, schematic, driving frequencies and scope shots e.g

Agentgates Build 1 Rev0. pdf

Agentgates Build 2 Rev3. pdf

This way all the important data can be had for a particular build, what works and doesn't work can be available without trying to piece together fragments from the thread.

It will eliminate a lot of questions that are now being asked individually. Then only information not contained in the pdf will be up for question and this data can be included in the next Rev #

Maybe include the date also in the pdf file name.

Just a suggestion so we can all be on the same page.

Regards...V

pauldude000

Quote from: agentgates on January 13, 2010, 05:33:57 AM
Hi All,

@Otto

[off]Particle accelerators is a very big category like air vehicles also very interesting but we are not looking to understand other than ours. :)

The inner ring you mean is used at large torroid PAs for central timing as when you have a large structure with driving coils several hundres of meters away they have to be driven from the same distance as electron flow also has a delay. Otherwise if there is only a few billionth of a second delay than necessary the whole thing will not work as expected or won't work at all. Fortunatelly we don't need to bother that, we have tiny devices. :)[/off]

@All

Glue is solid so I can pop the primaries on and hook it up in an hour or so. ;)

UPDATE1

LOL I screwd up Stefan's coil again...  ;D Fortunately I can fix it. I've put 2 more turns on of one of the secondaries and they are not symmetrical now. :D


UPDATE2

Guys it is so ugly. But I don't care, he deserves it... ;) He has joined to the evil sceptic's side and broadcasting the negative subliminal messages from his hideout... ;D
http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1130291.JPG


Hey agentgates. Long time no see.

The problem is simply that. This is about the first thing I have seen him say that actually is relevant.

The largest problem I have seen with this tech is that everyone and their uncle knows exactly what it is. Therefore, they think they know how it works. One person thinks it is a transformer, another a zero point energy device, a third a harmonic resonance device, and a fourth thinks it is a space modulator... :) (Marvin the martian for the last.)

Truth be told, it is a particle accelerator. Electrons are particles, and it accelerates them from rest into motion. The faster they go, the higher the voltage, the more move at the same time, the higher the current.

I used to tackle this problem logically using straight forward well understood principles of physics. I realized that somethings are not so straight forward or as well understood as I would have liked to believe. I had my own notions about what this thing was, and therefore why it worked...... I was wrong.

I was thinking too much.

How many ways can you think of to spin a merry go round?

1. You can grab a handle and run like heck in circles, forcing the thing to move by brute force from your legs. (High power approach.)

2. You can stand still, and sling it with brute force with a hand. (Pulsing high power)

3. You can start it moving gently, then slap the bars as they come around in a perfectly timed manner. (Very little energy imparted.)

Something I caught from Steven's remarks was that it used a rotating (spinning) magnetic field. I knew he said in two directions, but unconsciously blew this fact off.  However, I think now Steven missed something himself.......... There was more than one field....

If current passes through a wire, remember that there is both a right hand rule, AND a left hand rule.....

If you spin one, you spin the other equally.

Your coil, magnetically speaking, would create a toroidal field which should be spinning horizontally as well as torsionally along its length.

Remember that in a particle accelerator, EITHER a magnetic field, OR an electric field, can be used to accelerate a give type charged particle.

Being blunt of the one thing I now know for a fact, what this device is most certainly NOT is a transformer. Therefor, stop thinking of it as one, as if you apply transformer theory, it will not work.

If it worked solely of off magnetic field cutting of wires, then the collectors would not be horizontal. The magnetic field is just stroking the collectors lengthwise, even with the field rotation considered.

My feeling, and this is just a gut feeling mind you, is that this thing is working off of the electric field.

Paul Andrulis

P.S. Sorry I blew you off way back when you were wanting me to get with you to work on this through e-mail.... All I can say in my defense was that I misconstrued your offer, and jumped to conclusions.. Again, I apologize.

With what I know now, I probably would have been more of an obstruction then anyway.
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