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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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gotoluc

#115
January 18, 2010, 12:42:23 AM
Hi Bruce,

from my tests and understanding a toroid seems to keep most of it's magnetic field inside the core, so I would be surprised it would work better than a standard coil to overcome the PM flux.

I could be wrong though :)

Luc

Bruce_TPU

#116
January 18, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
Hi Luc,

You are correct, and that is why we have the idea is to use the toroid as a make and break virtual switch for the flux.  While the toroid is in the "on" stage, the flux is broken from the "parallel path" and then when the toroid is "off" the flux is able to once again flow.  By simply oscillating the flux, on and off, we create power on the pick up coils.  ;)

That is how it plays out in my head anyway... LOL

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

futuristic

#117
January 18, 2010, 09:26:58 AM
Third version is IMHO the best, but you don't need two toroids only one big enough.

gotoluc

#118
January 18, 2010, 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on January 18, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
Hi Luc,

You are correct, and that is why we have the idea is to use the toroid as a make and break virtual switch for the flux.  While the toroid is in the "on" stage, the flux is broken from the "parallel path" and then when the toroid is "off" the flux is able to once again flow.  By simply oscillating the flux, on and off, we create power on the pick up coils.  ;)

That is how it plays out in my head anyway... LOL

Cheers,

Bruce

Yes Bruce you're right!... I see that now. Thanks for clearing it.

The disadvantage would be the large air gap between the toroid windings and toroid core :-\  but if the magnets are strong enough the flux will still go through.

Humm, maybe the toroid core could be contacting the laminations and wind in between the open areas.

Luc

Bruce_TPU

#119
January 18, 2010, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: gotoluc on January 18, 2010, 10:58:27 AM
Yes Bruce you're right!... I see that now. Thanks for clearing that.

The disadvantage would be the large air gap between the toroid windings and toroid core :-\  but if the magnets are strong enough they will still go through.

Humm, maybe the toroid core could be contacting the laminations and wind in between the open areas.

Luc

Hi Luc,

The pictures are not to scale.  I will be using an air gap of .032"  This will also be the same gap I use between the steel.  There needs to be very small air gaps.  I think I will use tooth picks on their edge, to keep them seperated.


Here is my favorite one, so far,


Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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