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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Groundloop

#125
January 18, 2010, 06:31:41 PM
@synchro1,

Said:
>>Bad news for grounloops new project.

Please explain in more detail why you think this setup won't work.

Do you have a magnetic simulator program? If yes, is it possible to
simulate this circuit?

Anybody with a magnetic simulator program out there?

Alex.

Bruce_TPU

#126
January 18, 2010, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: synchro1 on January 18, 2010, 04:18:25 PM
@Bruce,

Nice work! I realized that all one need to do is to increase the diameter of the middle disk neos between the toroids, to equal the strength of two stacks on each side and allow for the space needed to fit the toroids in between. Also, based on Paul Noel's idea of "Backdraft", it would be possible for the first air gaped armature to act as a middle magnet for a second larger parallel path apparatus, now coupled to a T shape, providing over ten times the flux force in the larger armature coil to one side. I also noticed your schematic has the second unwound armature on the other side. That one has to leave. The amplification of force by this kind of coupling presents a real solid chance to go overunity.

@Luc

Based on a study of Wesley Gary's analysis of the neutral zone and his application to the fluctuating armature on his pole shifting generator, there is one current generated when the armature is polarized, and another when the magnetic field colapses. There seems to be no advantage to re polarizing in the opposite direction, as the current generated the other way is the same as the first. Bad news for grounloop's new project. One way to zero is as good as pole reversal. With the coupling approach, half the pulses would yield five times the force to one side and save some burned out DPDT switches at the very least. One can see how a nano watt IC could switch giga Gauss of magnet force with enlargement and reduction of the bridge couplings scale. Perhaps a good power plant for a high voltage lifter. Also I believe the switching of the toroids would encounter less eddy interference then the standard Flynn magnetic wraps switched back and forth.

I plan to build and test this.  I have the pickup coil (Brooks coil) and will source out my steel, once I size everything out.  Cores are already on order, Metglas.  Magnets are on order, lot of them...LOL

I will post videos on youtube as I build it, as I am doing with my Steorn magnet motor.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#127
January 18, 2010, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: Groundloop on January 18, 2010, 06:31:41 PM
@synchro1,

Said:
>>Bad news for grounloops new project.

Please explain in more detail why you think this setup won't work.

Do you have a magnetic simulator program? If yes, is it possible to
simulate this circuit?

Anybody with a magnetic simulator program out there?

Alex.

Hi Alex,

I actually like your drawing a lot.  It may indeed work.  We were simply discussing the "parallel Flux" path idea.  Supposedly, there is a "Flux magnification process" that happens.  This would be good news!

EDIT: 
Is that a standing wave set up, having an inverted phase, that I see?   :D

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Groundloop

#128
January 18, 2010, 06:43:37 PM
Bruce,

Yes. I already have the micro controller switch ready to go.
Need to wind the four new toroids. Will probably make this
circuit this weekend.

Alex.

synchro1

#129
January 18, 2010, 06:51:59 PM
Groundloop,

Your schematic looks great. I don't have the program your talking about. I believe your MEG would generate the same amount of power if the magnets were unidirectional. It appears to me that your design would generate low ripple AC and require a full wave bridge rectifier to store. It also includes unnecessarily complex circuitry that would eat up power. I didn't say it wouldn't work. I'm merely pointing out that it might work more simply. Please move forward with your design, though, there are usefull applications for AC.
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