Perendev?

[Omnibus]

Either you will provide definitive proof that PERENDEV device is not self-sustaining or I will consider you worse than the scam artists you described.

[WalMartGreeter]

But they will not run the device without the batteries, nor will they remove the batteries from the circuit once the device is started.? They may claim it's self-sustaining, but it'll really be the batteries powering it.

I assure you, with 100% confidence, they will not demonstrate a self-sustaining device.

Why should I believe you? Tell me one reason I should believe you?

Because the claim violates the first law of thermodynamics.  And countless others who've made similar claims have pulled the exact same tricks.  Why do you expect Perendev to be any different?

Come on.  Don't you get tired of constantly getting your hopes up, only to be let down with lame excuses?

This is a completely unjustified attack. I?m not an advocate of Brady but I resent such unbecoming, frivolous talk.

It's not an attack.  It's a statement of fact.  Be sure to dig this posting up after the demo, if the demo happens at all.  And see if you can tell how I was able to predict what happened.

Again, if this "self-sustaining" motor is demonstrated at all, it will be powered by batteries and some naive measurements will be used to convince people that the motor is really recharging the batteries as it runs.  But for some strange reason they won't be able to disconnect the batteries and truly demonstrate self-sustaining operation.

I repeat, demonstrating of a self-sustaining device, if real, is the easiest thing in the world. They will be out of their minds to set up such show with such claims and not demonstrate a truly self-sustaining device.

Yep.  Demonstration of a self-sustaining device, IF REAL, would be the easiest thing in the world.  There's a reason all these "working" free energy machines are always demonstrated in an obtuse manner.  They aren't real.

[Omnibus]

But they will not run the device without the batteries, nor will they remove the batteries from the circuit once the device is started.  They may claim it's self-sustaining, but it'll really be the batteries powering it.

I assure you, with 100% confidence, they will not demonstrate a self-sustaining device.

Why should I believe you? Tell me one reason I should believe you?

Because the claim violates the first law of thermodynamics.  And countless others who've made similar claims have pulled the exact same tricks.  Why do you expect Perendev to be any different?

Come on.  Don't you get tired of constantly getting your hopes up, only to be let down with lame excuses?

I told you that I have no reason to believe you and you confirmed it big time. Above statements reveal that you have no clue as to what the essence of the first law of thermodynamics is. I won?t get here into its clarification but I?ll tell you that an argument such as ?Because the claim violates the first law of thermodynamics? is ridiculous and should be rejected outright.

Also, the fact that somebody else has made false claims by no means gives you the right to use that as an argument against the experiment in question. This is non-scientific. You have no clue as to what the scientific method is and yet you dare express extreme opinions.

This is a completely unjustified attack. I?m not an advocate of Brady but I resent such unbecoming, frivolous talk.

It's not an attack.  It's a statement of fact.  Be sure to dig this posting up after the demo, if the demo happens at all.  And see if you can tell how I was able to predict what happened.

Again, if this "self-sustaining" motor is demonstrated at all, it will be powered by batteries and some naive measurements will be used to convince people that the motor is really recharging the batteries as it runs.  But for some strange reason they won't be able to disconnect the batteries and truly demonstrate self-sustaining operation.

Not at all. Yours is a slanderous attack and is by no means statement of fact. No matter what happens with the demo your present position is reprehensible and you should apologize to Mike Brady.

In no way you are in any position now to state what the demonstration will be unless you can provide clear evidence that you?re in the know (which you have not provided at all). Therefore, it is best for you to restrain from expressing unjustified attacks.

I repeat, demonstrating of a self-sustaining device, if real, is the easiest thing in the world. They will be out of their minds to set up such show with such claims and not demonstrate a truly self-sustaining device.

Yep.  Demonstration of a self-sustaining device, IF REAL, would be the easiest thing in the world.  There's a reason all these "working" free energy machines are always demonstrated in an obtuse manner.  They aren't real.

Again, you cannot use the fact that someone else?s claims were not real to justify attacks at the claims under discussion. This only shows that you are not familiar with the scientific method and yet have the nerve to make unsupported blanket statements.

[WalMartGreeter]

Yours is a slanderous attack and is by no means statement of fact. No matter what happens with the demo your present position is reprehensible and you should apologize to Mike Brady.

If Brady demonstrates a clearly self-sustaining motor, I'll apologize.

When he demonstrates a battery-powered motor and maintains that it's not really running off the batteries, rather, it's really charging the batteries (they're just needed to get it started, but strangely, he won't disconnect them once it's started), I'd appreciate an apology from you.

There's really no use arguing about this until the demo.  Just sit back and wait and see what happens.

[Omnibus]

No, I won?t apologize to you even if the outcome is negative. Your approach is flawed and you don?t seem to understand that.

As for Brady, you should apologize to him now, no matter what the outcome from the demonstration, because you have provided no evidence which would justify your attacks.