Magnet motor in Argentina

Omnibus · March 25, 2006, 04:47:16 PM

QuoteActually they have sent to hell Omnibus Grin Grin Grin as well in another post because they have not understand what he says...

The problem was that the topic http://www.hispaseti.org/foroWanaH/viewtopic.php?t=3314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0. is closed and I couldn?t post there. I saw another topic http://www.hispaseti.org/foroWanaH/viewtopic.php?p=34915#34915 which seemed to be devoted to the motor in question and I kindly asked them to help me in understanding the principle and finding contact info of the inventor. Instead of addressing these issues they ?sent me to hell? as _GonZo_ puts it and the conversation went nowhere. Of course, unjustified negativism will do nothing more than make the person even more ambitious in getting to the bottom of it.

Now we already know the principle of action of the motor and it doesn?t seem unreasonable as the colleagues from the Spanish forum seemed to unjustifiably imply. Also, the fact that the video doesn?t show the bottom of the device is a minor point which isn?t enough to provide good grounds to outright send the device to hell. It seems to me some other motives are into play here, not exactly connected with scientific exploration.

orionjf · March 25, 2006, 05:44:45 PM

Omnibus, Gonzo, from my point of view, this topic is completely "burned" in the hispaseti forum because they caught the inventor (or "someone related") and some "support posts" with the same IP address. My advice is forget it (the forum) because people, who feel cheated or misleaded, use to refuse anything else about the topic ("hells included"). This can be reasonable ... or not, but that is.
To make public the IP addresses in some cases could be good ("transparency") ... or not. It?s an admin ethic problem.
Best Regards.

Omnibus · March 25, 2006, 05:57:02 PM

Thank you, orionjf for your clarification.

I wonder, however, about something else. If paranoia is to be involved, could it be that the administrator had manipulated the IP addresses of the supporters to appear as the same IP address and thus to compromise easily, with just one stroke, the inventor?

orionjf · March 25, 2006, 07:27:17 PM

Maybe, Omnibus, you?re right ...
Talking about the device, I see a constant goal in these kind of devices: to use less energy for creating an unstable status than the system "gives" moving to the next stable status. Then there is a positive net energy "balance" (energy "extracted" from magnets). The invertor has released a brief force analysis (too much "simple" probably) but it will be a better argument to make an energy analysis. This could be very simple too: If Ec<Ep (Ec Energy for making changes for reaching an unstable status and Ep energy -potential- that cuases the rotor moves to the next stable status) then we can cheer !!!!!!!!!
Best Wishes

_GonZo_ · March 25, 2006, 07:34:45 PM

In that Spanish forum they are very unpolite. And they do not deserve much atention. So forget about them...

In my opinion this device does not work, as I explained before. But that does not mean that I do not help you all to translate and help you in your researches as I promised.

I sugest to keep an eye on inventors web page, and time will tell....