Magnet motor in Argentina

[Omnibus]

Rather than speculating on its operation, it would be easier to just make a test model and verify it for ourselves. What would be optimal is if we could establish a direct line of communication with him and have him show us how to build one.

I agree. I?ve been trying to get in touch with him for several days now ... unsuccessfully so far but I?ll keep trying.

[_GonZo_]

Translation:

(54) Generator of continous movement by permenent magnets
(57) The present (patent) is a generator of continous movement using permanent magnets using the rejecting properties of same poles and the magnetic forces deviations caused by cuts in the magnets, using as only energie source the the one given by the magnetism closed in the magnets that compose the device.

[_GonZo_]

I know that you are very deluded with this device, but I am sure it does not work, simple calculations demostrate that...

I understand that is dificult to see why it does not work but if you let me know were you think that the force that moves continuosluy the device I will try to explain you what fails in that...

Please bare in mind that I do not pretend to be negative, Actually when I first looked at it I thought it worked but after some cold mind analisis it is clear it does not work.

[Omnibus]

I understand that is dificult to see why it does not work but if you let me know were you think that the force that moves continuosluy the device I will try to explain you what fails in that...

OK. Start with one magnet up, as is in the picture. Don?t start as you?ve done in your previous explanation with all magnets down. At that, a tangential net force is claimed to exist which pushes the magnet rotors away from their position shown in the picture, towards the gap. It is also presumed that the net repulsive force in question is not only enough to turn the motor but also to lift one magnet off of the gap while the rotor is moving towards it next position facing three stator magnets down. During this motion the magnet that was initially up is dropped at the right moment so that the net tangential force is restored to move the rotor further away, towards the new gap, and thus to repeat the whole above-described procedure all over again. This keeps repeating and the rotor turns indefinitely.

[_GonZo_]

OK lets do it looking to inventors picture:




The problem is here:
"It is also presumed that the net repulsive force in question is not only enough to turn the motor but also to lift one magnet off of the gap"
This is a presumtion, but is it true?

Magnet nunmer M4 is out of the ring.
So the rotor in theory will turn in the direction of the missing magnet, the torque that the rotor will have is equal to the repulsion force of the magnet that is missing (you have to see this point very clear if you do not see it clear you need to revise your fisiscs knowledge)

At the same time that the rotor turns have to move M5 out of the ring, but remenber this magnet has a srping that keep it on the ring, and to keep it in the ring you need the same force as the repulsion that produces M5 over the rotor. (if the force of the spring is lees than that think that magnets number M1, M2, M3 will move away from the ring and there will will be a gap there then...)

So if M4 = M5 the repulsion forces they produce are equals as well aren't they?

So if both forces are equal witch force will make it move?