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Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter

Started by LarryC, February 20, 2010, 05:07:38 PM

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MasterPlaster


@all,

Perhaps someone with extensive work with magnets can answer this:

I have been following this thread from start and believe it holds promise but my
only reservation is because the magnets are being pushed to the limit, is there
not the strong posibilty for them to demagnetise after operating this motor fo a
while.?

Rapadura

Wow!!!!

It's the first time I'm reading this thread, and need to say it's FANTASTIC!!!!!!!

This thing has exactly the principle that I was thinking about: using the electromagnet just as "switches", with almost all the power coming from the permanent magnets!!

No doubt OverUnity can be achieved with this approach. No doubt!

When we try do to a motor with only permanent magnets, we have the problem of the sticky point, but using weak electromagnets we can invert polarities and cause repulsion to destroy the sticky points...

OverUnity is waiting around the corner!

Low-Q

Quote from: MasterPlaster on February 26, 2010, 06:26:12 AM
@all,

Perhaps someone with extensive work with magnets can answer this:

I have been following this thread from start and believe it holds promise but my
only reservation is because the magnets are being pushed to the limit, is there
not the strong posibilty for them to demagnetise after operating this motor fo a
while.?
No,

This motor works as any other electric motor with magnets and electromagnets. Except it is configured different. The magnets are exposed to both opposite and equal electromagnetism as in a normal brushed or brushless electric motor. So the average magnetic exposure from the electromagnet is 0. The magnet will be slightly demagnetized at when exposed to opposite magnetism, but later slightly magnetized by equal magnetism. There is the timing of the polarity switch which make the rotation - as in a regular electric motor.

Vidar

nightlife

 There is one big problem people are over looking here and that is that this motor must produce enough energy to fire the coil. That energy must be gained between each firing point. Based on the design, that would mean that it will have to produce the energy needed in just a fraction of the rotation which would be impossible. You may be able to create perpetual motion at best but nothing more.

Here is a good test for those interested in this. Use a iron core and power the coil and read how much pull is created. Then figure out the percentage of pull gained and compare the gain to the percentage of gain when a magnet core is used.

I am betting you end up with more of a percentage gain with the iron core then you do with the magnet core.  ;D

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: Rapadura on February 26, 2010, 06:48:46 AM
Wow!!!!

It's the first time I'm reading this thread, and need to say it's FANTASTIC!!!!!!!

This thing has exactly the principle that I was thinking about: using the electromagnet just as "switches", with almost all the power coming from the permanent magnets!!

No doubt OverUnity can be achieved with this approach. No doubt!

When we try do to a motor with only permanent magnets, we have the problem of the sticky point, but using weak electromagnets we can invert polarities and cause repulsion to destroy the sticky points...

OverUnity is waiting around the corner!

don't be so sure.

resistances:
1. friction.
2. gravity
3. magnetism
4. nuclear force.
5. weak force.
6. electromagnetic force.
7. Static forces.

it would require a unification of energy and or forces to do such a thing. nobody has yet achieved this. I am not saying that it couldn't happen but what I am saying is nobody has went as far as only coupling just a couple of forces at most. you have to couple all forces into one action.

what I am saying is nobody has gone far enough!