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Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter

Started by LarryC, February 20, 2010, 05:07:38 PM

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Omega_0

Quote from: Kator01 on February 21, 2010, 10:01:42 AM
Hi Omega_0,

You have to read again the following sentence of Arthur :

This means that - as an example - 4.69watt power-input is needed for an output of 100 Watt .
He is a wise guy. stays under the radar.

No ou ? LOL

Kator01

I think you are misinterpreting the word "power". He does not talk about the output. He does not mean that feeding 4.69 W into the coils will "generate" 100 W, he means only that 4.69 % is the contribution to the output from the EM according to his definitions. What he has defined is:

100 - 100*Fe/(Fa-Fn) = %Fan

where %Fan is the % of force due to amplification and neutralization, Fa is force in amplification mode only, Fn is in neutralization mode and Fe is in EM only mode.

Feed the values:
100 - 100*4.4/(101-7.35) = %Fan
or
100 - 4.69 = 95.31 = %Fan

Now Efficiency = Eout/Ein

= torque*angle/(V*I*duty cycle)
= Fan*radius of rotor*2pi*RPM/(V*I*duty cycle*60)

So you can see that we know only 2 variables out of 7 (Fan and V) and it is not fair to say anything about the efficiency. He needs to measure Ein and Eout.

I'm not saying that this is underunity, there is a good chance that it is OU. Someone needs to measure it properly.




I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

wings

Quote from: Groundloop on February 21, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
Here is one way to test this. Two identical coils on a soft iron core with
a magnet on. The core to the left is the output coil.

G.
To increase the effect ... this solution from Lockheed Martin Corporation

An apparatus and method for creating a magnetic beam wherein a focusing magnet assembly.
Patent number: 5929732

http://www.google.com/patents?id=V7YYAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false


LarryC

To make it easy for the magnet simulators and replicators, the dimensions were taken off the Lock-up video. Not perfect, but close as I zoomed the picture until the alligator clips were the correct size in MM, which appear to be the small size from Radio Shack.

Regards,
Larry






ramset

An interesting comment about this Re gauging phenomena from user Dark speed
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This GAP design is exactly the design in the magnacoaster patent... The version of the patent that involves rotation - not the motionless one

Coil shunts neo on approach then changes polarity (or turns off ) allowing the two neos to repell each other

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Comment made here:[reply 56]
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=120.msg1962#msg1962
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This I was not aware of ,RE magnacoaster
Chet

## User Darkspeed sharing his Re Gauging experiments/ experiences here[very impressive fellow]
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=133.msg1965#msg1965

PPS
I agree "Exactly" is a very BIG word !!
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

LarryC

Quote from: ramset on February 21, 2010, 06:17:39 PM
An interesting comment about this Re gauging phenomena from user Dark speed
Quote

This GAP design is exactly the design in the magnacoaster patent... The version of the patent that involves rotation - not the motionless one

Coil shunts neo on approach then changes polarity (or turns off ) allowing the two neos to repell each other


Exactly???

No. There are no magnets on the armature as in Richard Willis patent, it is a metalic strip section on the armature. The amplication pulse increase the force of pulling the armature strip into the magnet, coil, core section, then it can be released as it would continue around with no restriction until the point where it needs the neutralization pulse to allow the armature strip to pass.

Regards, Larry