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Overunity Machines Forum



Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

Started by ltseung888, February 24, 2010, 03:55:56 AM

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NerzhDishual

Hello A,

Yes I tried some magnets with the second coil.
I got a big charging effect, for a while....
For ex, with a 'scavenged' battery.
The amp consumption dropped (-4 mA)
1.248 Volts
1.270 Volts
1.277 Volts  a big couple of minutes after.

Great!

I let the CCT alone.
I got : 1.241 volts 4 hours later !!!

I removed the magnets.
The amp consumption gained 4 mA (from 8 to 12).
I got 1.250 volts 10 minutes later.

I looks like the coil was 'fed up'/bored with the magnets...
Go figure  ???

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@Gustav Pese

I'm not sure to understand you fully.
I just can say that the charging effect is real. With a  Gadgetmail-like JT, I have swapped the 2 batteries.
However, I lost some voltage. = I observed that one bat. was slightly depleted.
I was also not being able to self charge one battery.

I'm planing to make a web page with all my measurements.
Some stuff already here:
http://freenrg.info/Some_Experiments/Joule_Thief/

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With this DCJT (see picture):

OK! This seems not to be 'OU', and was not claimed to be so.
This is just strange.

I replaced the bat wth a 995 ohm resistor.
I got the following results:

In: 1.270 Volts - Amp consumption 8 ma.
With the batterie being charged it is 12 ma.
OUT: 3 leds are lighted.
Voltage across the resistor : 1.195 volts.

So, appart from the leds.

IN: 1.270 * 8 = 10.16 mW
OUT: V*V/R = 1.195 * 1.195 / 995 * 1000 = 1.435 mW

COP = 1.435 / 10.16 = 0.14

NOW:
I disconnected Led1 and Led2:
Voltage across the resistor: 1.228 volts. Amp consumption = 8 mA (unchanged).
So led1 and Led2 are almost for free...

I disconnected also led3. So, with no led:
Voltage across the resistor: 1.66 volts. Amp consumption = 8 mA (unchanged)

BUT when I disconnected *only* Led3 I got a very little change in the resistor voltage (about 1.20 volts). Led3 is for free.

NEW COP (with no led)
IN = 10.16 mW
OUT = 1.66 * 1.66 /995 * 1000 = 2.77 mW
COP= 2.77/10.16 = 0.27.

So, IMHO, I think that the magic, should there be any, is in the leds that are almost for free and in the battery that can be charged a la Bedini virtually without current but just by pulsed DC.

I would bet that it would be the same with a capacitor.
What do you think Sandy?
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Another thing:
Stefan invented the 'Overunity Prize'.
As, thanks to Sandy (Null-Point), I now have some Mojo.
I have invented the 'Underunity Fine'.

The calculation is very simple:
The fine is 1/COP in Euros.
Beware! Some COPs could be less that 1/1OO....

Very Best

PS: Could anybody gives me a synonym for the verb to 'LEAD OUT' please???

Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

Paul-R

Quote from: NerzhDishual on April 18, 2010, 05:05:02 PM
Could anybody gives me a synonym for the verb to 'LEAD OUT' please???
"Lead out" is a term coming from Lawrence and his research. But at the risk of getting a drubbing from him, I would suggest this explanation:

Space everywhere is jam packed with energy which consists of charged particles which flip in and out of existance very quickly. (See the 1957 Nobel Physics prize, and the words of Hal Puthoff on this subject).

There are various techniques to get these charged particles into your electrical circuit. These particles are then "lead out" of where they are, and become introduced into your circuit, thereby making your energy equations over unity.

This is "lead out" as applied to electrical devices. How it can be applied to gravitational devices I do not know.

NerzhDishual


@Paul-R

OK! I see. Thank you for your explanations.
My HARRAPS was only talking about "lead-out groove"...

BTW: Is this not a 'politically correct' way to avoid pronouncing the forbidden word 'AETHER' ... ;D


Very Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

ltseung888

Summary on what we have learned so far
1.  Energy can be lead-out (or bring-in) from the environment.  The Lead-out energy theory does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy. 
See Slide 1 of the Summary at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDZmIh6zrwc

2.  We can loopback some of the output energy to the input side.  The simple picture is in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DT9zm5rWhI&feature=related
The more advanced picture is in reply 243 of this thread:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg237739#msg237739

3. The detailed mathematical explanation of force, displacement and energy is in reply 245 of this thread:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg237951#msg237951
The case used is applying a small horizontal force (1/6 the weight) to a pendulum bob.  The vertical force is the vertical component of the string (equal to the weight).  The horizontal displacement (Lsin(a)) can be calculated from simple trigonometry.  The vertical displacement (L(1-cos(a))) can be calculated from simple trigonometry.  The horizontal energy = horizontal force x horizontal displacement.  The vertical energy = vertical force x vertical displacement.  The result is that two units of horizontal energy can lead-out (or bring-in) one unit of gravitational energy approximately.
This is the simplified calculation but it demonstrates the most important aspect of the lead-out energy theory.  There is no magic in bringing-in gravitational energy into a pendulum system.  It is strictly vigorous classical physics.  The present school and university physics course materials do not discuss it.  The future ones will.

4.  If we use a magnet as the pendulum bob and place other magnets to produce appropriate magnetic fields, we can also lead-out or bring-in magnetic energy.  Magnetic energy is mainly due to the rotation of electrons around the nucleus.  Leading-out magnetic energy can be treated as leading-out electron motion energy.   Thus we can build the Tong Wheel that can lead-out both gravitational and electron motion energy.  The Tong wheel is available for demonstration and verification in Hong Kong today.  See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBRCs6sWjQw


5.  In order to bring-in the most energy into a pendulum system, we must push the bob at the resonance frequency.  The same should apply to the electrical systems.  Thus pulsing a resonant circuit at the appropriate frequency should lead-out or bring-in electron motion energy from the surrounding.  The bring-in energy is NOT from the supplied AC or DC source.  The simple experimental evidence is in reply 213 of this thread.  Varying the pulsing AC signal frequency does change the Output peak-to-peak voltage.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg236324#msg236324

6.  With the appropriate loopback system, we only need to supply the starting energy.  The lead-out energy machine (properly designed) will be able to continuously bring-in electron motion energy from the surrounding.  Thus the Lead-out energy theory can explain the source of energy from the many overunity devices described on the Internet.

7. The Joule Thief is a special case of immediately extracting the supplied and the lead-out energy.  Thus it does not need to be at resonance frequency to show high efficiency.  It may be tuned with additional capacitors and/or double Joule Thief techniques to get to the resonance environment.  The Gadgetmail device may be such an arrangement.  Thus a 1.5V battery can start a circuit leading-out or bringing-in electron motion energy to heat up water.   The best explanation is in reply 221 and 222 of this thread.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg236707#msg236707
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg236854#msg236854

8.  The Stan Meyer Circuit is a special case of DC Pulsing a LCR resonant circuit.  The lead-out electron motion energy is responsible for converting the water molecules to Brown’s Gas.  The Brown’s Gas can be used as fuel for combustion engines.  Thus, running a car totally on water is possible.   The source of energy is the lead-out energy.  The Bob Boyce work and in particular, the Bob Boyce Hex Controller may be of special interest in recharging batteries of electric cars.  The recharging energy is the lead-out energy.  Only an electronic circuit is involved.  There is no need to connect to the electricity supply grid. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ3juM6vHwg

9.   The Magnacoaster Vorktex battery charger product is now available for sale.  Rasa of the Hangzhou Group already ordered one.  I shall be testing it shortly.  There is no point in arguing about it at this moment in time.  The patent information and the preliminary experiments on the Tong Wheel in reply 72 of this thread indicated that it may not be a hoax.  Presence of permanent magnets close to Coils can indeed change the magnetic flux and thus affect the Output Power.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg231508#msg231508
http://www.vorktex.ca/

10.  My conclusion at this point is that:
Pulsing resonant circuits can lead-out electron motion energy.  This is both theoretically correct and experimentally proven.  The many researchers and inventors working on resonance systems are not hoaxes.  Resonance behavior is very tricky to catch and to replicate.  The most likely successful strategy is for a well financed group to manufacture the high quality components and follow exact procedures to produce actual products.  Some products can be sold as Educational Do-It-Yourself kits.  Since the theory and the experimental results are freely available to all, a fleet of FLEET products will come out in the near future.  The race to lead-out energy has started.  Vorktex is leading the way.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ketone

Good Summary!...i am in agreement working on a similar coil setup...