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Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

Started by ltseung888, February 24, 2010, 03:55:56 AM

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Quote from: Bob Boyce on December 28, 2010, 05:59:44 PM

I've been doing advanced energy research for long enough to know how to make measurements of complex waveforms. Most of the long-term members here know me, and some have even visited my lab, or met with me elsewhere to verify results with their own test equipment.

Bob Boyce

I don't believe it.
I do believe however that you will turn into a Clown

Omnibus

Bob, could you please explain in more detail what do you mean by "making measurements of complex waveforms". Thanks.

robbie47

Quote from: Bob Boyce on December 28, 2010, 04:09:25 PM
I personally experimented with a small toroidal version of the "joule thief" in 2009, and did note some COP >2.5 results when it was tuned just right. I was not really impressed with the small amount of output, but that's just me. I would not call it a failure, as it did exhibit a COP of greater than 1. I just do not have many applications for milliwatt level power sources.
Bob Boyce

Bob, you would serve this forum by explaining how you tune such toroidal coil 'just right', rather than state you did.

I could simply note here that I can turn iron into gold by creating the right conditions.
This doesn't prove it can be done.

Paul-R

Quote from: Bob Boyce on December 28, 2010, 05:59:44 PM
Most of the long-term members here know me...
Yes, we do. And it is great to see you here.

You would have more chance teaching a hog the Argentinian Tango than getting through
to certain people on this thread. They haven't done their homework because they don't
want to know.

I wonder if you care to warn certain people in certain threads about the dangers of TPUs.
I gather that they can bite and can bite savagely.

Paul-R.

Bob Boyce

Quote from: robbie47 on December 29, 2010, 05:16:10 AM
Bob, you would serve this forum by explaining how you tune such toroidal coil 'just right', rather than state you did.

I could simply note here that I can turn iron into gold by creating the right conditions.
This doesn't prove it can be done.
Since the value of L in a simple toroidal RLC oscillator is fairly well fixed for any given wind, you alter the values of C and R to adjust the range and use a fine tune potentiometer in series with R to tune within that range.

Tuning for peak output is also not difficult, if one has access to analog test equipment. Direct measurement using digital measurement equipment simply cannot be trusted, as EMI/RFI and reactance can cause huge measurement errors. Interference aside, digital equipment relies upon sample readings, and sample rates can all too often line up with peak or null readings to produce false averages. In a nutshell, it would be wise to invest in some high quality analog panel meters, and always assume that there may be EMI/RFI present. These analog meters can be found at surplus outlets all over the world. A couple of high end analog multimeters would be a wise investment as well. Digital meters should never be relied upon in EMI/RFI prone environments.

There are several averaging methods which can be employed, one of which is to use temperature rise of a resistive calibrated load. Be sure the load is resistive, as it is getting harder to find good non-inductive resistors as time goes on. Another is to rectify and filter the output heavilly, then still measure using analog meters to prevent possible induced EMI/RFI errors. Many of these sort of devices are radiant in nature. Hence, they may radiate RF, which can and will alter test readings if one is not dilligent.

One area most often overlooked is in the power source or supply. Pulsed loads can also cause measurement errors in calculating average power consumption. It is important to also properly isolate your power source from EMI/RFI to prevent induced errors or power supply instability, and to ensure that you are truly measuring average voltage and current drawn from the power source.

I cannot give you a one fits all fixed solution, as every situation will be different, and must be dealt with accordingly. I prefer to encase my large toroids in Faraday cages to eliminate EMI/RFI radiation. Since they are not the typical electromagnetic device, it's not an issue for me. However, doing this with most radiant energy devices can adversely affect performance. Most require an influx of electromagnetic energy to exhibit the apparent effect(s).

Let me close by stating that I do not believe in "free energy" or the use of the term "overunity". These buzz words cause nothing but grief for those of us that endeavor for a better understanding of what is taking place in certain circumstances where there are apparent anomolous energy effects. What I do believe is that it can be possible to extract more energy out of a process than what WE put into it, ie a COP of greater than 1. This energy does not come from nowhere, and it certainly is not free. We have to build an apparatus to intercept it, and that costs money. No more so than wind energy, solar energy, or hydro energy, to name a few, yet those are now widely accepted. To tap into the wheelworks of nature is not free energy, and does not violate the laws of physics, yet so many are offended at the very concept. To each their own.

I hope this has helped, but I will not hijack this thread to discuss this further, or to answer questions about my designs. Please do not ask me to, I will not respond. Please show respect for the thread owner and thread contents, even if you may not agree with them. The lack of respect has led to the decline of many good forums.

Bob Boyce