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Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin

Started by Magluvin, March 01, 2010, 01:30:50 AM

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forest

think that way : plain transfer means two capacitors connected with a straight wire.However this wire has capacitance, very small indeed. Transfer is not "one way shot" but very high frequency oscillations.
50% energy is lost and this has to be additionally checked , because this loss maybe due to breaking dipole (50% energy floating around is radiated) or maybe due to symmetry of circuit.
Can you try dump one charged cap into two empty caps in parallel or in series ? Is there still 50% energy loss ?

forest

Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx2sMj765fY
Isn't that confirmation of very long oscillations ? What is missing is a receiver not influencing transmitter.

woopy

Hi Forest

thank's for the link to the video but really sorry i don't understand what the guy is demonstrating.
Can you explain please

Thank's

Laurent

forest

He demonstrated just a blocking generator which once started from battery is working about 4 hours producing continuous oscillation. Like Joule thief ringer.

We don't want so long oscillations, just from single impulse oscillation should work steadily for a few seconds, and of course with much higher voltage. Now the key is to catch radiated energy by receiver and of course it must be in fixed frequency.
Isn't that like echo ? Releasing small amount of energy in very short time can generate very short by intense sound. No energy gain is here, however if you are in the mountains you got multiple echo and suddenly it is heard as long roaring thunder.

poynt99

Quote from: forest on April 16, 2011, 03:41:55 AM
think that way : plain transfer means two capacitors connected with a straight wire.However this wire has capacitance, very small indeed. Transfer is not "one way shot" but very high frequency oscillations.
A wire has a small inductance, not capacitance. Then, the frequency of damped oscillation is determined by: 1/2π√LC

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50% energy is lost and this has to be additionally checked , because this loss maybe due to breaking dipole (50% energy floating around is radiated) or maybe due to symmetry of circuit.
Can you try dump one charged cap into two empty caps in parallel or in series ? Is there still 50% energy loss ?
The energy is lost because the wire is mostly resistive (i.e. Low Q-factor), therefore 50% of the energy is burned up in heat and lost to the environment.

Seems you're still having trouble seeing the forest for the trees.

.99
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