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Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin

Started by Magluvin, March 01, 2010, 01:30:50 AM

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Qwert

Quote from: Magluvin on April 03, 2010, 09:34:57 AM

(...)You have no rights to sell something that is not yours.  But that is what open source is all about. Do it yourselfers can take advantage of it for themselves and maybe friends, but to profit from it can cause trouble.(...)

Nope, You're absolutely wrong! Open Source gives EQUAL RIGHTS TO EVERYONE!! In other words, everyone can start his/her own production based on ideas presented in "Open Source" and to SELL those products. One only CAN NOT have EXCLUSIVE rights!!
For example, someone start his production based on ideas from an "Open Source".
A year later his neighbor starts EXACTLY alike production. Now both are selling their products, only the one who started later is selling it cheaper. The first one can do nothing instead of lowering his price; he has no exclusive rights to it. Practically all their neighbors have right to open their production of the same product. That's their risk if they'll sell it. 

the_big_m_in_ok

Quote from: Qwert on April 03, 2010, 03:01:56 PM
Nope, You're absolutely wrong! Open Source gives EQUAL RIGHTS TO EVERYONE!! In other words, everyone can start his/her own production based on ideas presented in "Open Source" and to SELL those products. One only CAN NOT have EXCLUSIVE rights!!
For example, someone start his production based on ideas from an "Open Source".
A year later his neighbor starts EXACTLY alike production. Now both are selling their products, only the one who started later is selling it cheaper. The first one can do nothing instead of lowering his price; he has no exclusive rights to it. Practically all their neighbors have right to open their production of the same product. That's their risk if they'll sell it.
Concerning Reply #322:
Magluvin is only correct if the device inventor has a patent on his device.  That's the law; so he's right in that instance.

Otherwise, Qwert is correct about the Open Source.  Public Domain exists.  His reasoning is legally right.

But!   If anyone can improve an existing product sufficiently enough to make the product different enough from the original to be original in itself, it's patentable.

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-9501.html

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

Magluvin

Well anyway, lets talk about discharging a cap on a portion of a wire that has a tail, or lets say like my puppy coil, we discharge a cap across the first 8 turns and collect from the coil as a whole.
Now the question is, the caps polarity when it is discharged across the first 8 turns, should we have the NEG of the cap on the far end and the POS on the 8th turn, or the other way around?
I have only tried it 1 way and not the other yet. But before I do, I just wanted to get some thoughts going here as to if there is a difference one way or another before I do try.
And also I want to see what some of you know, or even come up with as reasons for having correct polarity of the cap discharge and what happens in the coil when the discharge happens from discharge to output.

I have to work tonight but tomorrow I am spending Easter by myself an going to relax and play with this thing.

But I just want to get our minds going on this and see what the collaboration comes up with before I do the test and then we will see what the difference really is after, if there is a difference.  =]

Mags

ramset

Mags
your post 317 is like a mission statement.

I like it !!

Chet

PS
Nobody has suggestions for Forest on a scope?
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Magluvin

Hey Chet
I didnt see the post that forest was looking for a scope.
I have been looking on ebay and there are some good ones for some good prices.
First, what are you looking to spend? This will be the first thing to think about. Then I will point out what I think is good for the price. =]

Mission statement?   Ok  whos coming with me? Help me help you, help me   help you.  Jerry Maguire

Well I have been involved with this stuff off and on since 7th grade. It started with gravity perps, and now Im all over the place.
But the thoughts of the problems and issues of a working device are ones that need careful thought.

Im sure that most people when they get into this realm at first think of riches, but for some that idea fades into something more important.  Some look forward as to what they will do when they get rich, but dont think about their fellow man woman and children as to how their lives will be while they are thinking about their money.
I look at it like this.

If we, all of us,  did not have to pay for energy, everyones lives would improve.  Everyone will have clean water, good food, and shelter with all the amenities. Because the money that is saved all around us can be put to these uses more abundantly. Most thieves will not need to thieve anymore because they have what they need already, as I say, most. Not all problems will be cured. But the quality of life for all should be of a higher standard for most all. Some bad eggs will still exist and some homeless will decide to stay that way, but maybe they will have a fridge with food in the box house that runs for free, with a tv in the fridge door. =]
But the ones that go hungry today, that problem would be lessened to the nth degree, along with the ones that need heat in the winter and cool in the summer.
I could go to Cali from Ft Laud in my electric car for the price of tire rubber and brake pads, not $800 in fuel.
One of the main costs of an airliner is fuel. A huge cost in manufacturing is electricity, along with retail and food stores lighting, air conditioning, refrigeration, food and supply transportation, all adds to the cost of the products.
I could go on but you get the drift.

Lets fix this thing,  Now   whos coming with me?   =]

Maguire