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Is anyone running on free energy right now ... this minute

Started by gmeast, March 12, 2010, 12:45:03 PM

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mscoffman

@Omnnibus

This video was not really designed to *prove* anything. It only suggest an equipment
configuration that someone says gives him extra energy. The equipment configuration
happens to ring-a-bell with me, anyway, as being what would be required if a Bedini
machine develops extra energy and the user wants to begin to apply it to a utility
online intertie. Of course it will be impossible to absolutely prove anything via
telecommunications, as there is just too many possibilities for cheating then covering
the cheat up. At some point you/we have to just start believing that a Bedini machine
can supply extra energy.  Is this person really going to put all this equipment in place
only to propagate a cheat? Why not factor some of those output circuits in the Bedini
machine if it is not going to work anyway?

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I happen to like this users use of the inexpensive utility interactive inverter if you
happen to be in a situation creating free energy. Why waste energy it in a resistive
load when it could be doing useful work. I think/hope more and more people are going
to find themselves in this position in the future.

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Will the system work with substitute capacitors? Most probably it will not??! Why not?;
“The acid/lead storage batteries play a role in the creation or conversion of the excess
energy.” In fact the reaction occurs inside them. They are actually reactors rather
than batteries. Even if the reaction doesn't power things directly, the reaction down-
converts the power voltage from the static electric regime into the low voltage high
current regime required by the inverter. Unless capacitors have a tremendous working
voltage their dielectrics will be blown out in this service.  One of the most important
items for proving what is actually happening is having a large scale operation, like this,
where it is apparently happening.

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In a real system he would add an additional LiMH buffer store battery and keep his
acid/lead batteries in inexpensive to replace form since they are most likely not
designed for the service they are providing.. This also explains the need to swap
batteries, to wear-level them.

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Can Bedini be sued? Yes, you can sue anyone you want. But this is the standard
“chicken or the egg” free energy situation. If he offers a guarantee then he has
to back up his claim with scientifically valid proof of how the process works. And
that scientific proof has to be interactive with all the rest of science.


:S:MarkSCoffman

Omnibus

@mscoffman,

The problem is that he's asking for money for his unproven efforts. Anubody who does that is a scammer by default. Look at all these honest folks here spending their own hard earned money to do something good. Is Bedini smarter than everybody else to ask for money for something that has never been proven scientifically? I think there should be some mechanism to make such smarties feel accountable. Maybe it's exactly the fact that they feel untouchable which allows them to launch these large operations. This applies to manipulators in the mainstream science as well.


neptune

Can Bedini be sued ? The fact that he does not specifically give a guarantee does not in my opinion render him immune from prosecution . He makes claims , and his designs have to live up to them in my opinion . Why has he not applied for the James Randi one million dollar prize ? Perhaps he is on to such a good thing that he does not want to the rock the boat for a prize that he cant win . If he can do what he says he can do , who could resist the kudos of beating James Randi . Oh and a million dollars might be useful as well .

WilbyInebriated

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