Is anyone running on free energy right now ... this minute

[tagor]

You didn't get relief because you didn't pursue the matter further, I guess.

yes , not so easy

[markdansie]

@ Tagor and Neptune
I find your posts refreshing. I have travelled world along with many friends and other interested parties for many years testing claims of FE inventors etc. Sadly to date I can honestly say that I know of any device or process that actually can demonstrate free energy.
My interests were in hydrogen, gravity wheels and magnetic motors.
One exception I will make is blacklight power has demonstrated an interesting effect and gain but have failed to practically engineer it or capture it in.
I am happy to say in most cases I came across people were either measuring wrong or self deluded. Sadly many were straight out con men.
The MIB if they did exist are long gone, and I know investors with millions ready to assist to bring any device to the world. I have seen a lot of good coming out of these forums like a JT device coupled with a small solar cell and leds for under $10 for third well countries. Sadly 2 Million people have no electricity at all.
I treat FE as a hobby and like the fishing expedition...there is always hope that something will come eventually...unfortunately it is highly unlikely but a possibility.
I could tell you of dozens of failures but have signed NDA's...funny enough not to protect people from having ideas stolen but more to protect them from embarrassment.
One of the most interesting adventures I had last year was to investigate (for investors) a FE device in South Africa. I flew with two other engineers from Australia and USA on the back of a TUV engineers report it had been validated. Needless to say we had it busted in a few hours
Many thanks for raising the questions you have put to the forum and as you have already seen no one has stepped up to the plate.
Kind Regards
mark

[Omnibus]

@markdansie,

The reality of OU is already proven definitively. Why then there are no practical applications that you and I know of? Besides the fact that mine or your knowledge in these matters isn't the criterion as to whether or not there indeed are no practical applicatiins existing, the lack of their widespread availability has many underlying reasons. The beginning of the OU revolution, we are experiencing now, can be compared with the beginning of the computer revolution. That computers can exist was well known in the fifties of the last century. Von Neuman arcitecture was well understood in some closed circles and yet it didn't even occur to the rest of the world that one day millions will have a funny device called computer in their homes. We have this funny device now and therefore it is even more funny to realize that there were those who had said in the fifties that such a thing is impossible to exist because they have not seen it to exist anywhere then. People who claimed then that computer concept is real were called fools, scammers or were just ignored.

What is the difference between these two revolutions. The difference is that the computer revolution has soon found its way through the Academia while the OU revolution still can't do that and has to rely either on the meager private funds of its participants or on confused private investors whose only goal is nothing else but return on investment. These are substandard conditions for any scientific revolution and that's the reason for the slow progress in harnessing the practical aspect of OU. No private funding can compete with the existing infrastructure of the mainstream science and to have it divert its direction from what it does now to OU is a matter of changing its ideology. That is very, very difficult to achieve. That would be the solution also to the practical aspect of OU but is very difficult to achieve. To sway the mindset of the stringent academic structure towards OU is a daunting task. Nevertheless, if we want to achieve success in OU we must work towards changing the academic attitude rather than looking for private investors with their ROI. Private investors are goog only as long as they go along the idealistic path of convincing Academia in the merits of OU. Every other role of the private investors is forsaken and misunderstanding of that point is the main reason for the failures of all commercial OU enterprises without exception.

[Omnibus]

Now that we were just talking about Bedini I see our friend-enthusiast Sterling Allan has posted this: http://pesn.com/2010/11/23/9501730_Bedini_Renaissance_Conference_a_turning_point/ . Has anybody been there to share his or her impressions?

[neptune]

It is great to see people on this thread writing some well thought out posts . I looked at the youtube vid about James Randi , but something strange was happening with the sound .Maybe it is meant to sound like that? Will try it again soon . Just a few thoughts to add . Just after the war , Britain was very short of housing . The answer was prefabricated houses [pre-fabs] . But it was useless to get conventional builders to construct them , as they were too set in their ways . So they were made by the redundant aircraft factories . The same may well be true of free energy machines . I think Blacklight Power are onto something , and more power to their elbow . As we know , governments worldwide reserve the right to snatch patents for "National Security " reasons . Thus for all we know , the military may already be using FE devices . Think about this . Do we really know that nuclear submarines are actually powered by nuclear energy? Few people get a look inside . Maybe they run on some zero point energy that never needs refuelling . Such subs could perhaps be much smaller than the nuke jobs , and harder to detect .The same may be true of aircraft , manned or unmanned .We can only speculate .