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The world's only immortal animal

Started by 4Tesla, March 18, 2010, 08:03:50 PM

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the_big_m_in_ok

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March 18, 2010, 09:05:26 PM
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

jadaro2600

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March 19, 2010, 01:46:25 AM
One point for the Pastafarian team.

onthecuttingedge2005

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March 19, 2010, 02:35:52 AM
all Cancer cells are inherently immortal, they lack the gene that causes self destruction, so long as cancer has nutrition and remains unstressed it can live forever.

it would not be a pretty picture having immortal humans stuck on one world and no other place to expand. if we lived in space directly it would help but in the end it still would not be a pretty picture.

WilbyInebriated

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March 19, 2010, 03:15:30 AM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on March 19, 2010, 02:35:52 AM
all Cancer cells are inherently immortal, they lack the gene that causes self destruction, so long as cancer has nutrition and remains unstressed it can live forever.

it would not be a pretty picture having immortal humans stuck on one world and no other place to expand. if we lived in space directly it would help but in the end it still would not be a pretty picture.

your jump from cancer cells having a telomerase gene to them being immortal is disingenuous. i think you are missing a few key points... the term immortal in regards to cancer cells does not imply that individual cells live forever, but refers to the ability of a cancer cell colony to replenish itself indefinitely under suitable conditions. this is contrary to the behavior of normal cell populations which exhibit the phenomenon of replicative or cellular senescence, where cells lose the ability to divide after a certain number of cell divisions, typically between 50 and 70 in human cell lines.

and just how did you jump from cancer cells being 'immortal' to humans having the same capacity?
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