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Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

Started by Bruce_TPU, March 21, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 27, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
Hi GB,

I guess my only issue, is that I do not see the magnetic fields rotating, at all, even though the magnets of course, are.

If a moving charge induces a magnetic field, then the magnetic field will move with the charge.  Instead of saying, a magnetic field does or doesn't rotate with the magnet, we should say, a magnetic field moves with its source (charge). In the case of a magnet, each charged particle is its own source of magnetic field energy. When the effect of each charge is considered separately, the proper operation of the Homopolar Generator is revealed without violating Einstein’s Relativity.

For simplicity, we do not have to consider each individual charge, we can instead group together charges with similar velocities as a component of charge motion. Then resolve each component of charge motion separately and then sum the results to arrive at the final answer.

One component of magnetic field is produced by the mobile carriers and the other component from the stationary charges. These two magnetic field components produce equal and opposite effects thus canceling any added effect due to the rotation of the magnet.  In the "new magnetism" book on Pages 68-73, it talks about the Faraday Paradox and should clear up this issue of "does the field rotate with the magnet or not", http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=383

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 27, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
Anywho, just how I am picturing it right now, if that is even correct.  Have you built that description of yours and taken some measurements?  I would love to see some pictures or video if you have any, as well as a log of your measurements.  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce

I have taken measurements, but not of the designs I have been talking about because they have not been built.  Below is a design of a brush-less system based on two Halbach Arrays, or a radial magnet.  Please note, if axial magnetized magnets were used, then there would be no EMF generated because the only thing rotating in these designs are the magnets (this does not work with axial magnetized magnets rotating on their magnetic axis when their is no relative motion between the disc and external circuit, as you are fully aware of).  This is the reason for the Halbach Arrays and the radial magnets.  These designs are not based on relative motion between the disc and external circuit.  They are designed around "charge motion" and the directions of the EMF.  The book, "New electromagnetism" is in agreement with these designs, but these designs were not initially designed around that model.

In a 3d view, the magnets will be inside a copper shell, and this copper shell is completely containing the magnets.  The magnets will be rotating inside this stationary copper shell.  I have less complicated designs without the Halbach Arrays by using multiple axial magnetized magnets/discs rotating together with a stationary external circuit, but they will need slip rings on the axle.  I'm sure these designs will work, or at least a variation of them with slight modifications......but the question is, will they still have a counter torque.  The voltages will be higher in these designs.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

Happy Saturday night to all,

I have wound my first two mini Tesla pancakes.  nothing like a little spray adhesive and bees wax.   ;)  I have about 3 or 4 more varieties that I will wind tomorrow.  After they are all completed, I will laquer each of them.  I also have some wood parts glued up and drying as seen in the picture.  This is too hold up the backing, for the one friction point in the whole setup.  Tomorrow I will glue the Glazed ceramic tile to it.

Once the set up is complete, I not only want to do some spin down tests, but also want to do some weight vs. power input comparisons.  Just curious on that, in a magnetic levitation situation.

Hi GB,

I follow you somewhat in your last post, and will be taking a look at the posted book.  Your idea seems simple enough to build, perhaps you should build a mini one and post your pics and results here.

I like the picture that you posted, as well, and it has given me also some fresh ideas, with this set up that I can also try.  Of course in my setup, it would not be brushless, but that's okay.  The idea of enshrouding the magnet in copper is intriguing. 

With my Level 2 BRUNG, I will be able to test a brushless version enshrouding the copper and a few other ideas.  It will be a larger version, by a multiple of 3.

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT:
Receive a message that the pdf file is in need of repair, and it would not download.  If you could put a link to it here, or reload it, it would be appreciated, GB.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 27, 2010, 11:58:43 PM
EDIT:
Receive a message that the pdf file is in need of repair, and it would not download.  If you could put a link to it here, or reload it, it would be appreciated, GB.

I originally downloaded that pdf article from, http://www.distinti.com/docs/nm.pdf

I'm using Linux and my pdf viewer doesn't have any problems with the file I uploaded, but I did receive an error message about this same file when I tried to upload it earlier to Scribd.com.  If you have any problems with the pdf in the above link, then please let me know.

This page has all of the publications based on the model of "new electromagnetism", http://www.distinti.com/docs/

These articles are a very good read and I think you will find them interesting.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

You'll love this publication on Faraday's Final Riddle, and I uploaded it to Scribd so you can view it on-line (you can always download it if you like),  http://www.scribd.com/doc/29043991/Faraday-s-Final-Riddle

Does the Field Rotate with a Magnet? by A. G. Kelly.

This paper gives a description of a series of novel experiments on the relative motion of conductors and magnets.  In the Conclusions of this publication on page 16, it says, "Faraday's Law of electromagnetic induction is true only in particular circumstances. As is known, a separate analysis is required for Motional Electromotive Force. This paper provides the basis for such a general rule."  This is the reason why my designs require a separate analysis, because they are based on "charge motion" and the directions of the EMF.  This publication, also supports the concept of my designs.

[Edit:]  @Bruce:  I'm not trying to steer you away from your own experiments in order to test my designs.  Hopefully, some of the information I'm posting will be beneficial or be useful for your own experiments, either now or in the future.  I'm still interested in the pancake coil and look forward to your results.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: gravityblock on March 28, 2010, 03:15:25 AM
You'll love this publication on Faraday's Final Riddle, and I uploaded it to Scribd so you can view it on-line (you can always download it if you like),  http://www.scribd.com/doc/29043991/Faraday-s-Final-Riddle

Does the Field Rotate with a Magnet? by A. G. Kelly.

This paper gives a description of a series of novel experiments on the relative motion of conductors and magnets.  In the Conclusions of this publication on page 16, it says, "Faraday's Law of electromagnetic induction is true only in particular circumstances. As is known, a separate analysis is required for Motional Electromotive Force. This paper provides the basis for such a general rule."  This is the reason why my designs require a separate analysis, because they are based on "charge motion" and the directions of the EMF.  This publication, also supports the concept of my designs.

[Edit:]  @Bruce:  I'm not trying to steer you away from your own experiments in order to test my designs.  Hopefully, some of the information I'm posting will be beneficial or be useful for your own experiments, either now or in the future.  I'm still interested in the pancake coil and look forward to your results.

GB

Hi GB,

Your are correct, I did indeed LOVE that pdf.

You know, it had me thinking... If simply the disc is cutting a the field lines one time, and this is generating the voltage on the disc, could not a series of discs (ie..my tesla pancake coils) be stacked, electrically seperated by perhaps paper?  This could drasticly increase power out, if very thin discs were used (ie..the disc method)??  Your thoughts on this?  Of course as long as the magnetic field strength was strong enough to produce a voltage at the far end, or one could sandwich it between the two magnets in attraction.

I also learned something, for I was under the impression that the disc(coil) had to be sandwiched between a north facing and south facing magnet to produce any power.  This is not the case.  As long as simply one end or the other of the magnet is facing a disc...this means that there should/can be many more spots added to my BRUNG device in which I can take off power, for future experiments.  I LIKE that!

Hi Everyone,

My glue is set and my backing is now complete.  It is totally movabe, until I find the exact place distance it will need to be at for the levitation of my device.  I used ceramic glazed tile, because it is like glass.  Smooth with very little friction for the pen tip.



Cheers,

Bruce

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.