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Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

Started by Bruce_TPU, March 21, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 28, 2010, 01:33:06 PM
Hi GB,
You know, it had me thinking... If simply the disc is cutting a the field lines one time, and this is generating the voltage on the disc, could not a series of discs (ie..my tesla pancake coils) be stacked, electrically seperated by perhaps paper?  This could drasticly increase power out, if very thin discs were used (ie..the disc method)??  Your thoughts on this?  Of course as long as the magnetic field strength was strong enough to produce a voltage at the far end, or one could sandwich it between the two magnets in attraction.

I also learned something, for I was under the impression that the disc(coil) had to be sandwiched between a north facing and south facing magnet to produce any power.  This is not the case.  As long as simply one end or the other of the magnet is facing a disc...this means that there should/can be many more spots added to my BRUNG device in which I can take off power, for future experiments.  I LIKE that!

Cheers,

Bruce

I agree, a series of discs/coils should increase the power output, and you are correct about the discs/coils not needing to be sandwiched between opposite poles.  Just take note of the direction the field is pointing in, relative to the disc, and the direction of rotation. 

You should take measurements of the disc facing opposite poles, and changing the rotation direction.  I think you will be surprised that both discs will have the same polarity in a, "disc/N/S/disc" setup (you probably won't agree with this until you take measurements).  Also, both discs will have the same polarity in this setup, disc/S/N/disc, but will be opposite in polarity to the discs in the previous configuration.  The polarity of the disc will be opposite in a N/S/disc/N/S configuration, than a S/N/disc/S/N setup.  Changing the direction the field is pointing in relative to the disc, will reverse the polarity, and changing the direction of rotation will also change the polarity.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: gravityblock on March 29, 2010, 10:12:10 AM
I agree, a series of discs/coils should increase the power output, and you are correct about the discs/coils not needing to be sandwiched between opposite poles.  Just take note of the direction the field is pointing in, relative to the disc, and the direction of rotation. 

You should take measurements of the disc facing opposite poles, and changing the rotation direction.  I think you will be surprised that both discs will have the same polarity in a, "disc/N/S/disc" setup (you probably won't agree with this until you take measurements).  Also, both discs will have the same polarity in this setup, disc/S/N/disc, but will be opposite in polarity to the discs in the previous configuration.  The polarity of the disc will be opposite in a N/S/disc/N/S configuration, than a S/N/disc/S/N setup.  Changing the direction the field is pointing in relative to the disc, will reverse the polarity, and changing the direction of rotation will also change the polarity.

GB

Got it!  Good stuff, GB, thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Hello Everyone,

My magnets arrived today in the mail.  I went to put my BRUNG together, but ran into an interesting conundrum...

It seems, that glueing washers to my plastic pieces, in the thinking of just, "sticking them" to the magnet was not as simple as one would think...LOL  It would seem, that it does not, will not stay on the magnet straight.  I find this interesting, and of course the answer must be the air gap in the center.  Hmm...Butch is certainly using an air gap in his magnetic switch.  I just find it interesting, that I never noticed this before or heard mention of it.

So, I will be out looking for "solid" pieces of round steel to epoxy.  I will not glue my magnets to anything, so the round metal will be found...LOL

Cheers,

Bruce  (Dar'ned if I don't learn somethin' new everyday!   ::)  )

Makes me wonder if an airgap couldn't be used on both sides of a "V gate" at the so called "sticky spot"...hmm...that should get some of you magnetphobiacs thinking... 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Hi GB,

I am quickly deciding not to go this "super mini route".  I want to do some real testing and really focus my energy on this project, when I conclude my SSG3 experiments.  Trying to wind 20 mini pancake coils is ridiculous and I'd rather just build a large one, and really wind some nice pancake coils, as well as bifilar, to test.  I am going to stack them, one on top of the other.

My question for you, is the following:  If I wanted to use 8" magnets, could I not use an 8" piece of thin steel for the front, place several strong N52 Magnets, all north facing to the steel plate, epoxy them in place and add a thin steel backing.  Or... must it be a true 8" magnet that is rotating on it's axis?  (ridiculously priced, as you can imagine).

If you think my first way will work, please let me know why, and if you have any knowlege of anyone trying this?  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on April 03, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
Hi GB,

I am quickly deciding not to go this "super mini route".  I want to do some real testing and really focus my energy on this project, when I conclude my SSG3 experiments.  Trying to wind 20 mini pancake coils is ridiculous and I'd rather just build a large one, and really wind some nice pancake coils, as well as bifilar, to test.  I am going to stack them, one on top of the other.

My question for you, is the following:  If I wanted to use 8" magnets, could I not use an 8" piece of thin steel for the front, place several strong N52 Magnets, all north facing to the steel plate, epoxy them in place and add a thin steel backing.  Or... must it be a true 8" magnet that is rotating on it's axis?  (ridiculously priced, as you can imagine).

If you think my first way will work, please let me know why, and if you have any knowlege of anyone trying this?  Thanks!

Cheers,

Bruce

I have done some measurements on this, or at least similar to what you're referring to.  I will draw up a few illustrations to make sure we are talking about the same thing.  You are correct about the larger magnets being ridiculously priced.  My measurements suggests there is a workaround to this problem.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.