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Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

Started by Bruce_TPU, March 21, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Hi GB,

Nice setup!  What are you rotating it with?  Based on the info that Dutchy posted, it should certainly work!!  Now I am really stoked...!  I look forward to your results... I won't be home till Thurs, so can only watch.

@Dutchy,

Great find!  Thanks for posting that info!  I had seen a part of it before, but not the photo's, or actual build of any unit.  It would seem that someone else had a "part" of my idea... ;)

Now, I want to build a 12" unit, except, using N52 magnets, and replace his copper disc with "several" bifilar wound Tesla pancake coils, using stranded wire... That should put out some juice... hehehe

I like the idea of using some spacers, between the magnets in the array, I have to think about this...I think that I can come up with something...actually drilling a bunch of holes is not that bad of an idea...hmm.. need to think on that one. 

I did notice that he did not use a plate on top of his magnets.  Would this be advantagious?  I think perhaps a thin plate would be.

Lastly, I think that the output can be multiplied, by stacking...ie.. magnet, coil, coil, coil, coil, magnet, coil, coil, coil, coil, magnet.  Three magnet arrays and 8 coils.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

I think the test was successful, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIlORURSbI

When I reverse the probes, the sign on the voltmeter changes.  Reversing the probes is to show that the voltmeter isn't measuring any stray EM from the motor itself, but is actually measuring the EMF between the axis and outer edge of the conductor.  The voltmeter is showing mV with one decimal digit.  The readings are fluctuating probably due to a poor conductor and movement of the probes (I used roof flashing for the conducting material. They had a roll of copper, but it was like $80) The readings are much higher than I expected, so I need to do more testing with the metal discs on an axle, and as far away from the motor itself in order to fully rule out any interactions between the coils, motor magnets, and the HPG.  I will also put a resistor across the terminals of my voltmeter.

I will continue to do more testing on this throughout the week to rule out any external influences.  Thick metal plates are not needed IMO, if the magnets are properly spaced.  I do think having the magnets attached to a thin metal plate, with the proper spacing of the magnets will make the field more uniform with better results.

[Edit:]  @Bruce, this publication may also make you fell better.  The experiment in the publication is different from what we're trying to do, but there are some similarities. http://www.distinti.com/docs/pdx/paradox2.pdf

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

Very nice GB!  I am pretty sure that your reading is from the mags.  slap some paper and add another lid and stack em up.

What are you using for a motor, a computer fan?

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on April 05, 2010, 07:16:43 PM
Very nice GB!  I am pretty sure that your reading is from the mags.  slap some paper and add another lid and stack em up.

What are you using for a motor, a computer fan?

Cheers,

Bruce

I'm using a computer fan for the motor.  I can't stack anymore discs, because I don't have enough magnets to make another layer, lol.  I have a lot of magnets sandwiched between those plates.

I now have plans to build a much bigger HPG with an axle and magnets attached to metal plates to act as a large diameter magnet, using either my dremil drill or my router for the drive motor (very high RPM's).  My dremil drill is adjustable in increments of 1,000 anywhere between 5,000 - 35,000 RPM's, so this would allow me to take measurements over a large range.  I think a DC motor would be better, but I will use what I have around the house for the time being in order to achieve really high RPM's.  With a little time and effort, I can now test some of my designs.  I'll be working on a good and flexible test rig to take measurements of various designs, including the pancake coil.

I really appreciate you sharing this idea on how to simulate a large diameter magnet using numerous magnets attached to a metal plate.  Thanks.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

Hi GB,

I just finished reading through that .pdf that you posted.  Good stuff!  Interesting, in that it too proves, that the magnet rotating, NOT on it's axis can indeed produce power.  This tells me that the idea that the flux does not rotate, but only the magnet, is indeed a false assumption...for if that were true, a magnet on the outer edge of a rotor would consitantly "move" away from where it's flux had been and no power would be generated. 

This indeed means that simulating a large magnet will indeed work!  The reason that their experiment with two NORTH facing magnets did not work is because of the way their machine was wired, it would be the same as sandwiching a disc/coil between north up and north down magnets.

I have written to steorn, about their zeroF bearings.  I will use two of them for this large project.  It will still be costly, making 12" diameter "simulated" N52 magnets, but so be it... The main items that will influence the power output that are obviouse is the strength of the flux field, and the speed of the rotation.  The items not so obviouse are, bifilar tesla pancake coils, or regular coils, or discs.  Stacked, not stacked, resistance of coil, etc.

Things I still wonder, if I want to drive it like a homopolor generator?  Can a "simulated" magnet work like a homopolor generator and generate spin??

You may try that with your magnet sandwich, GB!  Add a nail to the bottom and see if you can spin it like a single magnet/nail homopolor generator...inquiring minds want to know...   

We need to source a very strong epoxy, and I am thinking of using a 12 Round of stiff styrofoam for spacers.... I want to build strong but very light! 

I have already designed a simple double brush system to take off power.  I will try simple, unless simple doesn't work!...LOL

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.