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Overunity Machines Forum



Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

Started by Bruce_TPU, March 21, 2010, 07:22:45 PM

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dieter

Here is my conclusion about the whole HPG topic.


The smaller, the less efficient, where only a gigantic model would reach an interesting performence, since, as it was said several times, with the diameter the output increases exponentially (^2).


I can hardly believe those who say they reached 70% efficience, or even more.


In a model that fits in a lab, the ratio between output as a generator and input as a motor is usually stupidly huge, read inefficient.


In my 2 microwave oven ring magnet sandwich HPG I reached silly 3 millivolt at 0.3 microamp, although only spun at probably 200 rpm.


I used a 1mm copper disc containing 4 spiral segmentations, with a closed ring in the center and at the rim, as suggested by tesla.


However, when I switched the magnet polarity, then the output amps became zero, which seems to indicate, that the spiral pattern indeed is capable of increasing or decreasing the output.


BR



Paul-R

Quote from: dieter on January 24, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
Well, a pancake coil instead of a disc was the whole point of Bruces project. As I said, pity he never posted the results.


Are they on this  thread somewhere?

http://overunity.com/2300/bruces-tpu-theory-and-experiments-ver-1-2/2055/#.VMfLbXcYtwE

dieter

I guess not, the TPU is an other project. But wait  I'll just read those 138 pages to make sure...  ;D


Thanks anyway.


BR


EddyCurrently

hi everybody... read this thread and it seemed interesting up to the point progress stopped and the incoherent statements began... Anyway...

Did anyone think of making the monofilar, or even bifilar, winding using a printed circuit card? You could get really fine details, and try out lots of different patterns pretty cheap that way.

I like the idea of using multiple arms radiating out from center to an edge ring, then a spiral from edge back to center. Coming back from edge to center with charge vector pointing inward would create counter torque if in same direction magnetic field, but a spiral path would direct most of the force in or out not tangential to rotation (right hand rule).

That is a combination of 2 different ideas here, and you shouldn't need brushes on the outside to complete the circuit if you do that, maybe still need them on the top and bottom shafts to supply power for hpm.

I guess the charge could be thought of as still overall moving towards the center, just slower and accelerating as circumference reduces toward center.

I don't have any big magnets to try this out with... anybody know where to get some cheap?

OR... could you dispense with the magnets altogether in a motor configuration where the spiral return from the edge forms the B field for the radial legs on the layer above it on the PCB. After several alternating layers and PCBs soldered together could you create a motor based on HPM that would turn the same way regardless of current direction (if current reverses field reverses and radial current flow reverses too, leaving net torque in the same direction).

Anyway, i enjoyed reading this thread. If it is truly dead It will be disappointing. It should be possible to get some PCBs made up much cheaper than $800 in magnets.

gravityblock

Quote from: dieter on January 27, 2015, 12:04:58 PM
However, when I switched the magnet polarity, then the output amps became zero, which seems to indicate, that the spiral pattern indeed is capable of increasing or decreasing the output.

Yes, and the logarithmic spiral is the shortest spiral with the maximum electromagnetic torque.

Reference:  Electromagnetic Induction and the Conservation of Momentum in the Spiral Paradox


Gravock
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