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GBluer(Slayer) Exiter

Started by slayer007, March 28, 2010, 09:26:54 PM

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allcanadian

@Teslatronics


Personally I have no problem with what you are doing and we should be realistic in our expectations if we tell people we want to share our idea's.
As well I believe any person who claims outright that any invention or idea is theirs and theirs alone is most likely a liar. We all base our idea's on the work or idea's of others and we are bound to them. We may not acknowledge them but that does not change the facts in any way and I have yet to research the timeline of any person who did not get almost all of their idea's from someone else.


Now if your circuit is a variation of slayers circuit then you have no worries because slayers circuit is simply a variation of someone else's circuit. To be honest I found this whole scenario very disappointing, a person tells the world I want to help people, I want to share, I want to get the message out then wants to sue anyone who they believes may profit from their supposed idea's they supposedly gave to the world.


I'm actually in the process of building a technology website and the disclaimer will state categorically --- All technology is given freely and I encourage everyone to experiment, build, share and sell to anyone in any way anything they please, I encourage it. Understand in some cases I have worked decades on these technologies but my feeling is that this BS has to end. At some point someone has to stand for something and stand by it for the benefit of everyone because what were doing isn't working, we need to invoke change for everyone's benefit no strings attached.


I think people will like some of these devices, for instance a magnetic bearing which can be build for under $20 and support loads up to 50lb's with full stability on all axis. Take you Bedini rotor and give it a gentle nudge it will make a few revolutions where mine would spin for 30 min to an hour depending on the inertia of the rotor. Lol, that should get a little attention.


AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

SeaMonkey

Is this the message containing the diagram
which is the subject of this present controversy?

The circuit shown in the diagram contains
nothing new or unknown regarding the many
variants of the solid state self oscillating "Tesla Coil."

That an experimenter has independently stumbled
onto circuit configurations and techniques which
have previously been discovered and documented
is not surprising.  But to claim it as something new
and original would be inappropriate.

Farmhand

Here's a couple of circuits for FM wireless transmitters. All these transmitter/amplifier circuits seem to do the same or
at least very similar things with all the same components.

These PDF's have parts lists, circuit diagrams and build instructions.
With some experiment and modifications they could be made to work at different frequencies.

If a few parts were taken away or re-arranged my bet is that there is a Slayer exciter circuit in there somewhere.

Take note the PDF's are copyrighted but I doubt that applies to the circuits if the circuits are separated.
I could take one of those circuits modify it and make my own PDF's and kits and sell them as far as I can tell.
Many of these circuits have been around since the beginning of the last century or so in some basic form or another.

http://www.wiltronics.com.au/datasheets/227pn1-dc1v1.pdf

http://www.wiltronics.com.au/datasheets/ki0232.pdf

EDIT: The price of these two kits is one is about 9 dollars and the other is about 12 dollars.


I believe that most of these "exciter" circuits are just simplified versions of other circuits.

Personally I'm all for open source, here's the thing, anyone can go into direct competition with Teslatronix.

I think this is the idea of open source. No one has has any more rights over public unprotected material than anyone else,
which maintains fair competition.

Personally I wouldn't take any money from kickstarter or any other entity because it gives them some control.
But each to their own.

Cheers

Kultus

There isn't one of Slayers circuits in either of those links ... sorry bud, off again ..... Just for a starter neither of them have any diodes in them that is unless you want to be picky and call out the pn junction transistor as diodes which technically they are but they are not in the proper configuration to preform the same actions as a Diode in one of Gbluers Slayer circuits, so no slayer in there mate.  want to have another try ? so long as it's on topic I'll humor you....

allcanadian

I think it's important to remember Slayer is the good guy here and he has done a great deal of work and shared it with others. I have the utmost respect for people who share their work freely with others because they believe they can make a difference. As such I do not think Teslatronics work takes away from that in any way and Slayers work was acknowledged in the literature.

I think we are missing the bigger picture here because there are no sides only intent and both parties want to help people. Isn't it enough that we all want to help make the world a better place?, I can think of no more noble cause and we should not be fighting one another we should be helping one other.

This can seem like a thankless endeavor even at the best of times but we know why we are doing it, others know why we are doing it and if our heart is in the right place we can never fail them or ourselves. You know in life and love words matter and sometimes the words must be said...
Thank you for all the work you have done slayer and it has not gone unnoticed by the people here.
Thank you Teslatronics for trying to make a difference and trying to make a buck or two is never a bad thing if our heart is in the right place.

Never forget, not now not ever, we are the good guys.

AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.