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[jbignes5]

Then again why complain because someone is doing work with the information we give them. That's like giving candy to a baby then saying but you can't eat it. Just sit there and look at it.


Who cares what Teslatronics is doing with the information. He is at least doing something to further the research in this area. What have you done besides claim he has violated Slayer or anyone else. It is Teslatronics putting the kits together, it is Teslatronics who has found a venue for this free information. We are researchers and if no one picks up the research and actually do something with it then what's it all for?


I for one would be flattered that someone did something with my research. Unfortunately it seems some are here for ego or some other reason other then the free sharing of ideas and experimental results. What someone does with that information no one can control because we freely let it go in this and other forums. We make that choice and to tell you the truth if you do not agree with the freely shared portion then you should not post on an open source forum.


Again, please stop berating someone who is actually doing something to get this out there. It doesn't matter if he is charging a fee for it or asking for a donation to further his research because he is actually doing work by making the kits and buying the materials and shipping the kits. He is doing this and not Slayer or even you for that fact.


I mean I would understand completely if he was trying to patent the idea and prevent anyone from doing the same as he is doing right now. In fact if Slayer has any brains he might want to start making his own kits with original documentation and all that. I mean what is to stop him from doing the same?

[SeaMonkey]

One of the things I do with my life is try to help the less fortunate among us,specifically handicapped children and their families.
I have often wanted to enlist the aid of others from this community to help with some of the more specific challenges...

Helping the less fortunate and handicapped is
good;  if it is truly given without any expectation
of getting something in return.

I'm certain you'd receive much generous assistance
in working out any technical challenges you may
need help with.  Many in the community will offer
assistance gladly.

...some of this work would have definite commercial value.

Some of us balk at "commercial" because of the many
hoops and difficulties associated with such ventures.
Commercial endeavors take one into the world of greed
and exploitation unavoidably.

The challenge being how to keep people like teslatronics and all his many supporters , from taking this work and running off to start a  "RESEARCH" business?

How does a group perform open source  research and protect it from people like this?

For those who want to retain exclusive control and
rights over their work "Open Source" is not the answer.
The use of Open Source Research by anyone for any
purpose is encouraged.

The consequences are far worse in the example of Teslatronics , he steals from people in this world that can't even get a clean glass of water [5 billion] .

I don't think "stealing" is descriptive of the process
of utilizing Open Source ideas.  The thought that people
in the World are being deprived in this case seems
extraordinarily excessive.

There are economical solutions to lack of clean water
for drinking.  Show them how and they can actually
do it themselves.

How do you define what is appropriate behavior  when peoples lives actually depend on the work??

If lives are dependent upon any work then that
work will be guarded.  In this case we cannot
make such a connection.

We are discussing work that could save lives!!,Change lives!! Truly needy lives !!

Then you must be talking about Education.  Showing
those who need it the procedures and processes for
meeting their own needs.

What sort of work are you referring to?

Patents, copy rights, fences, at what cost??
nobody here that is actually working to desalinate sea water or bring energy to places that
don't have it,to warm the homes of the less fortunate ,put food on tables where famine and drought
are ravishing the land.

It is possible to accomplish those tasks on a
small scale rather economically;  there are
innovative solutions to those problems which
are easily taught to people who need such
knowledge.  Unfortunately, the plight of many
people suffering those conditions has been brought
about intentionally by governments as they look
after their "interests."

Our World is presently in the hands of very bad
"rulers" who are together bringing an AGENDA
of enslavement and control to fruition.  Conditions
are going to become even worse for people
everywhere in the near future.

Nobody here working towards that goal gives a hoot about patents and copy rites
Patents have proven to be a waste of time in this venue.
Going for a patent on an OU device is like handing a man a stick to beat you with.

I couldn't agree more!

[ramset]

HHMMMMM
So when a scientist comes in to share an idea here for the purpose of desalinating sea water
or making electricity to heat and power parts of the world where people are actually suffering.


when that man comes here jibness will ask him is this open source? he will say yes thats why I'm here
I see you men have standards and are willing to work together to get this out there.
you play with small ideas together and respect the work ,no one goes to take the work and profit from it.
??

It is one thing to have "work" that is a work unfinished or unproven and "give it away"
it is quite another thing to have something that really Works !!


Gentlemen you are oh so right this is absolutely not the venue for such a scientist ,
open source has taken on a greedy "I would do it if I could" ,I GOT MINES! attitude.
To think that Scientists research could ever find a foot hold in the environment present here would be
asinine ,and to think a Scientist would ever work this way with men who defend a thief to their own fellows work?


well that is a bit insane............


Thx
Chet
PS Just for clarity the "fellows" are hundreds strong with thousands and thousands of hours spent at no cost to this community,and with no intent to profit from the work of others.


I had perceived this to be profoundly obvious among these men?

[jbignes5]

HHMMMMM
So when a scientist comes in to share an idea here for the purpose of desalinating sea water
or making electricity to heat and power parts of the world where people are actually suffering.


when that man comes here jibness will ask him is this open source? he will say yes thats why I'm here
I see you men have standards and are willing to work together to get this out there.
you play with small ideas together and respect the work ,no one goes to take the work and profit from it.
??

It is one thing to have "work" that is a work unfinished or unproven and "give it away"
it is quite another thing to have something that really Works !!


Gentlemen you are oh so right this is absolutely not the venue for such a scientist ,
open source has taken on a greedy "I would do it if I could" ,I GOT MINES! attitude.
To think that Scientists research could ever find a foot hold in the environment present here would be
asinine ,and to think a Scientist would ever work this way with men who defend a thief to their own fellows work?


well that is a bit insane............


Thx
Chet
PS Just for clarity the "fellows" are hundreds strong with thousands and thousands of hours spent at no cost to this community,and with no intent to profit from the work of others.


I had perceived this to be profoundly obvious among these men?

you know what I'm already sick of this drivel. Why don't you hear it from the guy himself...


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nXEkBcgyqKs&feature=g-high-u
You talk about BS. You are not concerned with anything but BS. This guy from what he states did not take this from anyone but Tesla himself.

Charity is charity. And to run a campaign to educate people to who really devised these type of devices is exactly what this man is doing.
It doesn't matter if he is profiting from this or not, why? Because this is Tesla's technology not yours and certainly not anyone else's. Tesla gave this to everyone and this man is just trying to get it out there to the masses. Do you not see Tesla's picture on the DVD. How about this guys handle???
]TeslaTronics??
You talk about thievery?? Who owns it and who has the patents to show that ownership?

Quit the BS...

Watch the entire video and then comment. I bet you don't watch it and still cling to the drivel you spout. Get off the I'm here for charity and get with the program. We are here to explore the free energy field and where it takes us. Arguing about who owns what, when it is shared openly is plainly egotistical and down right a slap in the face of everyone on this forum and what the open source community is about.

I won't be commenting on this subject again and if you think this guy did something not in the guise of open source then you have problems.

[MileHigh]

Because this is Tesla's technology not yours and certainly not anyone else's.

Enough of the "Cult of Tesla" boys, sometimes it's just too much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

The principle behind the operation of a transformer, electromagnetic induction, was discovered independently by Michael Faraday and Joseph Henry in 1831. However, Faraday was the first to publish the results of his experiments and thus receive credit for the discovery.

The first type of transformer to see wide use was the induction coil, invented by Rev. Nicholas Callan of Maynooth College, Ireland in 1836. He was one of the first researchers to realize that the more turns the secondary winding has in relation to the primary winding, the larger is the increase in EMF. Induction coils evolved from scientists' and inventors' efforts to get higher voltages from batteries. Since batteries produce direct current (DC) rather than alternating current (AC), induction coils relied upon vibrating electrical contacts that regularly interrupted the current in the primary to create the flux changes necessary for induction. Between the 1830s and the 1870s, efforts to build better induction coils, mostly by trial and error, slowly revealed the basic principles of transformers.