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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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Quote from: mr2 on April 27, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
No, I'm not overlooking the fact that it only runs in 40 seconds.

It is obviously energy stored at the start. It would not start if there wasn't.
That's the reason for my question: "Is it sure it is selfrunning, and not running of the HHO produced by the grid at start?"

That's also the reason to my suggestion that they should use a motor that is more easy to control. And then have a motor running for longer time.


MR2
I cannot see the engineering problems here. To control the motor you must control the current through the electrolysis. Circuits to control this is to be found easily. The circuit are sniffing on the AC generators voltage and controls the current flow through the electrolysis on that basis. How hard can it be?

Based on other claims, there is allways an explanation to why a motor doesn't work as desired. Many inventors tries to explain away the facts that prevents the motor to be a selfrunner. Adjustments are needed, wrong set of magnets, inproper ignition timing, lack of money (Please donate), etc. etc.

The same lesson every time a guy claims OU or something similar - with just a few minor adjustments. Then people are starting to ask questions. The inventor cannot reply, or provide bogus answers. Then the guy dissappear. Some inventors fools "stupid" investors, get ther money and disappear - or get cought by the police...

I'm just sceptic :)

Vidar

haithar

Well they didn't claim anything, they only made a video for the public and i thank them for that!
The issue i have is the broad coverage with assumptions which may not be true (selfrunning, self-looped, ..), if the admins on this site and peswiki would choose their news more carefully there wouldn't be such a hype every time before something gets debunked.
on the other hand nothing would be left to post in the news.  :-X

hartiberlin

Quote from: mr2 on April 27, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
No, I'm not overlooking the fact that it only runs in 40 seconds.

It is obviously energy stored at the start. It would not start if there wasn't.
That's the reason for my question: "Is it sure it is selfrunning, and not running of the HHO produced by the grid at start?"

That's also the reason to my suggestion that they should use a motor that is more easy to control. And then have a motor running for longer time.


MR2

Can´t just be the stored grid energy.
As Oliver switches off the power supply, you can see,
that the motor goes off after about 4 to 5 seconds.
So this is the maximum amount of storage.

So 35 seconds we have already seeing it run freely on just water alone.

Oliver and Valentin,
before you do something else,
please leave it as it is now and
just make a new video showing it run longer on its own
power.

Just don´t change anything yet !

Most inventors just change something and then don´t get it to work
again !

Better just leave it this way now and make first more
videos and better work on a replication model
with a new motor-generator set and try
to improve there and keep the current running model as it is,
so you can show it to others again.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

vrand

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 27, 2010, 02:24:01 PM
Can´t just be the stored grid energy.
As Oliver switches off the power supply, you can see,
that the motor goes off after about 4 to 5 seconds.
So this is the maximum amount of storage.

So 35 seconds we have already seeing it run freely on just water alone.

Oliver and Valentin,
before you do something else,
please leave it as it is now and
just make a new video showing it run longer on its own
power.

Just don´t change anything yet !

Most inventors just change something and then don´t get it to work
again !


Better just leave it this way now and make first more
videos and better work on a replication model
with a new motor-generator set and try
to improve there and keep the current running model as it is,
so you can show it to others again.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Exactly!!

Please Don´t change anything yet!

Please first try to find a Gas Regulator Valve so you can feed the HHO at a steady rate into the engine say at 2 to 5 psi pressure.  So then you can just turn the valve open more for more gas or turn the valve down for less gas input depending on the electrical generator loads.

What you have is something very special.    :)

Keep up the good work!!

We all look forward to seeing more of your tests!

Best regards, Mike R.


Omnibus

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 27, 2010, 02:24:01 PM
Can´t just be the stored grid energy.
As Oliver switches off the power supply, you can see,
that the motor goes off after about 4 to 5 seconds.
So this is the maximum amount of storage.

So 35 seconds we have already seeing it run freely on just water alone.

Oliver and Valentin,
before you do something else,
please leave it as it is now and
just make a new video showing it run longer on its own
power.

Just don´t change anything yet !

Most inventors just change something and then don´t get it to work
again !

Better just leave it this way now and make first more
videos and better work on a replication model
with a new motor-generator set and try
to improve there and keep the current running model as it is,
so you can show it to others again.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Can't agree more. Leave it as is and try to show it running longer. In the meantime, instead of spending more money, just study the produced gases, as I explained earlier. This will save you time and money.