Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[Omnibus]

you forgot to add 'which does not work'. there's a video on YouTube where two builders have replicated it exactly, they show the correct waveforms, a large 101-plated cell and so on. But it does not work or at least no overunity.

Can you please give a link to those YouTube vids?

[Omnibus]

This whole HHO field has been going on since the '60's with Dr. Rhodes, the original inventor, that sold units to jewelers.

I thought Yul Brown was the original inventor of that so-called HHO gas with the unusual properties we're discussing here. That a torch can be made from the evolved gasses due to electrolysis of water has been known since the days of Faraday, hasn't it?

[briansahern]

There has been a lot of confusion with regard to Brown's gas properties. I obtained a unit made in Outer Mongolia and thoroughly quantified its operation in 1995.
1. the efficiency of electrical energy to stored chemical energy in H2 + O2 gas was 87%. It had 60 parallel plates acting is series with 120volts each section acting as a 2volt cell. The system ran at 6 Amps
2. The gas evolved is stoichiometric (2H2 + 1O2)
3. The mixture is highly dangerous and prone to explosions when stored in vessels of large crossection.
4. Storing the gas in  small diameter tubing results in implosions and creation of a partial vacuum. This is because water will condense as a liquid on walls if they are close enough and the liquid occupies only 0.1% of the volume of the gases. In a large container too many reaction occur before condensation occurs.
5. Running an engine on Brown's gas is not routine. The dilution with air is necessary fro smooth operation.
6. All the mysterious properties attributed to Brown's gas, such as melting tungsten are simply combustion processes as tungstean wants to be W2O3
7. There is no magic to Brown's gas. Brown was a 'showman' and had to keep moving.
8. That does not mean that the high voltage electrolysis cannot support over-unity energy production.

[haithar]

Can you please give a link to those YouTube vids?

if i remember correct it was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF4zuqWEoI0

1. the efficiency of electrical energy to stored chemical energy in H2 + O2 gas was 87%. It had 60 parallel plates acting is series with 120volts each section acting as a 2volt cell. The system ran at 6 Amps

would be very good for using hydrogen as an energy carrier. wikipedia states that the current commercial electrolysers are in the 70% efficiency range.

[Omnibus]

if i remember correct it was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF4zuqWEoI0
would be very good for using hydrogen as an energy carrier. wikipedia states that the current commercial electrolysers are in the 70% efficiency range.

Thanks for the link. Not very convincing. Electrochemical systems are complex and need much more involved studies than this. The colleagues with the Anton cell might be doing something worthwhile but the price to get a cell to study it is prohibitive, unfortunately.

Also, we must have something else going on in addition to producing hydrogen. If the goal is to produce hydrogen through electrolysis, that'll be a hopeless pursuit regarding OU. I see a clear tendency to sway the research towards hydrogen economy and that's a way to deliberately kill this field of research.