made this with phun - free energy?

[Rapadura]

PHUN takes in account energy losses due to air friction. You can easily verify it if you increase the air friction in the "Advanced mode".

Now, I want to know why I'm BEGGING here to someone test my simulation and see if it really works, and NOBODY did this charity to me yet...

How many time I will have to humiliate myself, begging to someone test my .PHZ files? I won't stop until someone confirms that the pendulum never stops!

I won't try a real world build until somenone confirms my simulation. It's so easy, and has no cost, why nobody wants to help me?

[pese]

Rapadura

are you sure that all losses of the pendulum are
include in the software MATH ??

Or must the pendulum hang in free air ?

In free "vacuum" it calculate better to have no losts.

GP

[Rapadura]

Rapadura

are you sure that all losses of the pendulum are
include in the software MATH ??

Or must the pendulum hang in free air ?

In free "vacuum" it calculate better to have no losts.

GP

@pese,

I'm using PHUN for more than 2 months now, and I can assure you that it's a good software, with complex algoritm, and it take in account air friction AND friction in the bearings.

The proof is simple: if you build a "non-leveraged" pendulum with PHUN, and let it swing freely, it will eventually stop. If you use the option to "turn off air friction" (what is the equivalent of put the device in a vacuum chamber), the "non-leveraged" pendulum will swing for more time (because it has no air friction), but it will stop sometime, because of friction in the bearings.

After 2 months "playing" with PHUN it's the first time that I see a device that never stops... And I'm very confused with it... I know it can be a bug, but there is a chance it is a real perpetual motion setup!

[FreeEnergy]

hi,

looked at your simulation and to me it's just a simple pendulum that you  hang and let it swing. It should stop just like any other pendulum. am i missing something?

you say it's a "leveraged pendulum", when all i see is a pendulum. where  is the leverage input to feed this pendulum?

[Rapadura]

hi,

looked at your simulation and to me it's just a simple pendulum that you  hang and let it swing. It should stop just like any other pendulum. am i missing something?

you say it's a "leveraged pendulum", when all i see is a pendulum. where  is the leverage input to feed this pendulum?

@FreeEnergy:

"It should stop just like any other pendulum" - you're right. It "should" stop. But it don't stop! Do you think I know why? I simply don't know!

Just look the video of simulation on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKRF6SH3eU

Do you see what happens? The steel ball goes higher and higher at each swing, what is totally unexpected.

Did you run the simulation on you computer? My cousin did, and he got the same results. I emailed the .phz files to him and asked him to run the simulations. Now he thinks I'm crazy. But he confirms the pendulum never stops, and goes higher and higher, until it starts to spin, and never stops to spin.

I don't know why it happens, but I have a guess: the effect of the lever. The wooden rod where the ball is attached is a lever, with arms of unequal lengths. I think the lever is making the ball rise "a little more" than it should rise at each swing.

Please, don't tell me about the Second Law of Thermodynamics. We know it has only a barely statistical aplication... There's no reason to the nature to "respect" the second law of thermodynamics. "Conservation of energy" don't make sense to nature, because nature don't know what a hell is "energy". Energy is a human concept. Nature only knows electrons, photons, etc...