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Overunity Machines Forum



This device is the real self-running overunity?

Started by Arthurs, May 17, 2010, 03:45:15 PM

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DreamThinkBuild

Hi LarryC,

That is a very good thought, it makes sense of the magnet getting pushed down. That could also be the reason for the importance of the wings.

Without the wings I believe he is running into a large amount of vibration setup by the pushing of the outside magnets. If this is occurring because Lenz is creating a push down on the magnets supporting rod which would cause the entire frame to vibrate. At high speed this will cause eventual destruction, since it starts to become an off balanced spinning lever.

A idea to counter this is to remove the wings and replace them with two flywheels, sandwich the magnets between the outer rims(of flywheels) on magnetic bearings and extend the shaft upwards. This would create a both a gyroscopic and flywheel effect that "may" improve the design and remove the tendency for the magnet support structure to vibrate.

Too bad he doesn't have a scope shot we could also see if a snap back from the magnet is creating an impulse spike in the coils, which could also be giving it a kick.

capthook

First - in no way has anything been shown that would indicate a 'self-runner'.

LarryC - The up/down push/movement of the magnets would not be as large/strong an effect as that of the rotor travel meaning the coil polarity will still sync with the rotor IMO.
And given a good construction that doesn't/shouldn't allow for the rotor 'bounce', the magnets should then see some spin imparted as that 'down push' has nowhere to go but as a transfer to spin.

However, allowing the rotor magnets to 'spin' is an interesting idea.

My take on the process in following pics with 'B' config top/bottom polarity:
(Edit: changed pic)

capthook

Quote from: gauschor on May 24, 2010, 05:20:21 AM
         
6) Do you have any data or measurements gathered with  multimeters? Unfortunately it is difficult to determine the values on  the multimeter on clip #2.
My multimeter is burnt out and I have no way to get another at  this time. Especially, just to prove something I already know.

Data? Waaht?
:P

scotty1

Hi all.
I see I am asked to make a bet with this inventor to be proved wrong?
Have I done anything but ask a legit question?
I'll bet the inventor the O.U prize money to disclose this secret.  ;D

@Gyula, I noticed the same as you in AirStriker's sim.
The magnets are given a power source that is assumed to exist, yet my own tests show it should not.

@Capthook, in you drawings you say that the coil causes the disc magnet to rotate on the way in but not the way out.
I've tested it and nothing happens either way other than drag on the main rotor.

The inventor has given no answers at all.

The magnet as "B" could only rotate to get to a lower resistance state, but because it is fixed on its own axis and it is round it has no where to go except....even if it did rotate it would be under the same energy state, so it doesn't rotate. IT HAS TO MOVE ITS OWN AXIS!
It was shown earlier that the coil will make the magnet vibrate, and that is because of the changing energy states between the coil and magnet, in the vertical up/down direction.
Then there is Lenz to go with that which resists the horizontal wing rotation.
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The inventor has seen my clips so he can respond if he wants.
I have used coils and moved things relative to each other to no avail.
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Scotty.





LarryC

Comments from the inventor on youtube:

1. 'I am shorting out the generator coils. The first time that I thought I had beat "load" I had fixed magnets. Using rare earth magnets I did not have any steel in the cores of my coils because the magnets were powerful enough not to need the steel which, canceled out the the magnetic conflict. My volt meter was reading 24 volts. I thought I'd won and called a physicist who told me to short the coils out by wiring them together. That was full load. When I did that the machine stopped immediately.'

So it stopped under load when he had fixed magnets.

2. 'I started out w/ 12 magnets and 12 coils. When all the magnets were under the coils the fly wheel would be pressed down because of Lenses Law causing it to bounce up and down until it tore itself up. Finally down to 2 magnets and 1 coil. I thought what the heck and there wasn't too much power to to tear it up. Please check out the other video. 1 wing going up & 1 wing going down. No more bouncing. Please ask questions. Thank you.'

It does bounce up and down. The wings keeps the rotor from bouncing, but would still allow the magnets to bounce.

3. 'By the way my address is 2969 Dry Branch Rd Dixon Springs, TN 37057. I don't have much but my casa is your casa. If you are in the neighborhood drop by or call at 615-633-4298. "Everyone has something to hide except for me and my monkey".'

Seems like a nice guy and is willing to share. Does anyone with a Oscilloscope and others meters live near the inventor? A scope shot and other test, would produce a lot of answers.

Regards, Larry