This device is the real self-running overunity?

[markdansie]

@ Larry
I will be donating a spare scope to him I have here in Australia. I will take it overseas with me in a couple of weeks (possibly 3) and post it in the USA. (wil be faster than sending it from here) It is a portable duel trace. However in the mean time if anyone does live nearby would be good to get the scope shots.
I was going to give it to another developer but he alread had one earlier in the year.
Mark

[gyulasun]

@All,

I agree with the results shown for A and B as tested here, but I think we are overlooking a lot of issues that Wendel has pointed out.

In his first video (self runner), he states that the motor runs on magnetic pressure.

He has magnetic compression bearings on both the magnet rotors and central rotor. All rotors have adjustable nuts for alignment.

Some have said that the magnetic compression bearings are not needed, but is that true. What if the magnetic compression bearings are required for the effect?

In the jpg below, I've shown a very simplistic scenario of what may be occurring.

1: The magnet has come under and charged the coil which will push the magnet down, which is allowed by the magnetic compression bearings.

2: The magnet downward movement causes the coil to reverse polarity.

3: The reverse polarity causes the Magnets upward movement which causes the coil to change polarity and push the magnet down again.

The polarity changes would allow for the spinning of the magnets.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Regards, Larry

Hi Larry,

Unfortunately I did not do any test in the past where a rotor (or a stator) magnet is not fixed but could move away a little when a force acts on it.  Here this force is the Lenz counter force and the magnet can react on it by first moving away then 'bouncing' back from the reaction force of its bearing magnet. 
I am still uncertain if this action-reaction manifests in the cylinder magnet's rotation,  this is an open question.
Also I am still uncertain if this 'unfixed' rotor magnet positioning has the big difference in reducing Lenz law versus the fixed motor magnet case. 

Experimentation is needed and I think we have to give Wendell the benefit of doubt.

Thanks,  Gyula

[gyulasun]

@ Larry
I will be donating a spare scope to him I have here in Australia. I will take it overseas with me in a couple of weeks (possibly 3) and post it in the USA. (wil be faster than sending it from here) It is a portable duel trace. However in the mean time if anyone does live nearby would be good to get the scope shots.
I was going to give it to another developer but he alread had one earlier in the year.
Mark

Hi Mark,

This is very kind of you indeed. 

Regards,  Gyula

[helicoil]

?, did he try a system with  coils suspended on magnets, and rotor on bearings, seems an easier build,
do the magnets of the bearings affect the rotor bearings in any way?
what happens if a mechanical system is used to move the magnets, down/up at the coil? 

[LarryC]

Thanks, interesting comments from all on my bounce example.

Mark, you are very generous, but just a note of caution.

Wendell has only recently learned from a viewer how to do the test measurements requested by other viewers with a multimeter. The multimeter has since expired. It may only need a fuse replacement or a battery.

So for 20+ years he has attempted to create his self-running device without much or any test equipment knowledge. This may have been an advantage and may have resulted in a self-runner. I've seen, as I'm sure many of you have, self-runners on youtube that only worked because the inventor held the magnet in his hand. The vibration of the hand supplied the energy. 

I feel it would be better if someone with testing and building knowledge could go with any test equipment. If someone with scope experience, but no scope, lives close, then maybe you can send them the scope.

Other information like coil inductance, rpm, amperage, etc. would be helpful.

Regards, Larry