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Overunity Machines Forum



This device is the real self-running overunity?

Started by Arthurs, May 17, 2010, 03:45:15 PM

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gauschor

I exchanged some mails with Wendell lately and asked again what exactly happens when the magnet passes the coil and if it only works on aircoils (which he used on his clips) or with iron cores as well:

First of all, the magnets upon approaching the coils are spun  backwards by the induced current. Then moving under the coils are spun  backwards and forced downwards by the induced current. As they begin to  move past the coils because they are spinning they are also inducing  current once more because as they are moving away they are also moving  towards the coil because of the spin therefore, inducing current once  again and are repelled. 
          It works the same with an iron core. The best I found was actually my  wife's idea to use steel wool, which gives it a good boost in current  without such a dramatic magnetic effect.


We found out that digging deeper into theory of working (which I requested but eventually confused myself because of multiple magnetic fields and applying Lenz Law on them within nuclear dimensions make it difficult to determine what really happens) will not be that helpful, therefore we moved the focus onto the working of the device itself. Theory can easily applied afterwards if you have a selfrunner  ;)
Unfortunately he does not seem to have a working device for now, but he says the prototype will be finished soon and then he will upload the new video with the requirements requested some posts before.

gyulasun

Quote from: gauschor on June 08, 2010, 08:25:26 AM
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Theory can easily applied afterwards if you have a selfrunner  ;)
Unfortunately he does not seem to have a working device for now, but he says the prototype will be finished soon and then he will upload the new video with the requirements requested some posts before.

Hi,  Thanks for your efforts, I also think it is not fruitful to theorize with Wendell further on so hopefully he can have the proto running soon and we can have a chance to see it too and receiving more practical infos.

rgds,  Gyula

Sprocket

My v2 is still a work-in-progress, (v1 didn't show anything interesting) but I'm getting there.  Finally got some ring-magnets to play with so it's magnetic bearings throughout, even if there is massive room for improvements in their implementation.  Still, they're a huge improvement over the bearings I used in v1.  This is also an all-non-magnetic affair - brass and aluminium.  I'll keep you posted...


gauschor

I like it, looks very clean. Keep up the good work  :)

I am trying myself a replication, but it's somehow messed up, because I got no magnet bearings etc. Therefore my attempt will eventually fail. Though I will post a picture when it's done... if it doesn't work, at least I could teach how to not build this device.

One problem I see with this setup is the diameter of the rotor. I don't know why the inventor used such a huge diameter on his rotor - the larger the diameter, the lower is the frequency of induction :/

Sprocket

Thanks!  Also, for the info from the man himself, particularly on the iron-core.  I tried an iron core on v1 and as expected saw an increase in output, but nowhere near what would be needed so self-sustain - so no magic...

I am also wondering how Wendell can be so specific regarding the magnets spinning.  There is no way you could see that they spin given the speed the rotor turns at - so unless he is deducing this from scope-shots, seems to me more like speculation than anything else.

But hey, you replication has as much chance of working as mine has.  Considering how little concrete info we have on the device, the term 'replication' may be a wee bit optimistic! :)